Immigration Reform Will Ease Economic Decline, Study Says

New America Media, News Report, Esther M. Gentile Posted: Jan 08, 2010

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WASHINGTON--A new study by a leading academic researcher contends that legalizing undocumented workers through comprehensive immigration reform would yield $1.5 trillion to the U.S. Gross Domestic Product (GDP) over a 10-year period, generate billions of dollars in additional tax revenue, increase wages and consumer spending, and create hundreds of thousands of jobs.

The study, “Raising the Floor for American Workers: The Economic Benefits of Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” was conducted by Dr. Raul Hinojosa-Ojeda, associate professor at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). Dr. Hinojosa presented the findings during a telephonic press conference moderated by Angela Kelley, vice president for immigration policy and advocacy at the Center for American Progress.

“Number one … legalization produces an immediate economic impact, based on what we’ve known happens in previous legalizations. The reason is because legalization empowers workers immediately to become much more committed and integrated into the economy," Hinojosa said.

The report analyzed the economic impact of legislation passed in 1986. Even in an economic downturn, the legalization of undocumented immigrants caused them to move on to better-paying jobs, resulting in more spending and higher tax revenue.

“Undocumented immigrants … are in a sense a hidden economic engine that we have kept repressed in this country” to the extent, Hinojosa said, that when “we allow them to join the economic mainstream we see an immediate impact in terms of wages and on productivity.”

By creating a temporary worker program to allow for future flows of immigrants – something left out of the 1986 legislation – comprehensive immigration reform would have a magnified effect on the economy. “When we allow more low-skilled immigrants to come in, it expands the overall economic pie, and creates jobs up the ladder, like managers, accountants, and salespeople,” said Daniel Griswold, director of the center for trade policy studies at the Cato Institute.

The study also found that enforcement-only policies have a quantifiable negative impact on the U.S. economy beyond the cost of deportations. Unauthorized workers have lower wages, which hurts the wages of American workers and drags down economic growth, according to Heather Boushey, senior economist at the Center for American Progress.

“The movement toward full deportation in this country produces close to $2.6 trillion in economic decline,” according to Hinojosa. “It really accelerates the movement toward recession and depression, like we saw, by the way, in the 1930s.”

“I think there are two very important things about this report,“ noted Benjamin Johnson, executive director of the American Immigration Council. “One certainly is that it shines a spotlight on the potential for a very large impact on our economy in a time when we need it. Even in Washington, D.C., $1.5 trillion is a lot of money. But the report also reminds us of where the focus of an immigration reform effort ought to be, and that is about how do we provide benefits to the American economy and to the American worker.”

Legalizing undocumented workers, the panelists said, would neither take jobs away from American workers nor increase the number of unemployed.

“It cannot be in any way justified to try to oppose immigration reform on the basis of an economic argument,” Hinojosa concluded.


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Norski on Jan 15, 2010 at 15:41:22 said:

Paul/A - Those who purvey data such as this think we are all suckers. Did you know that our current immigration system was designed by that Liberal Lion Teddy Kennedy to allow immigrants into the USA only if there is a shortage of workers? Thus by definition Illegal Immigration represents an oversupply of workers and a gift to those who would drive down wages.

As the product of three generations of Union Workers I know the devastation uncontrolled immigration can bring to employment and wages. But along comes this study, conveniently claiming that if we just throw out our current system, which was supposed to help Unions, we would be so much better off.

But you better not look at the details. Because if you do you discover that the latest CIR proposal is designed to usher those working illegally in the USA into a legal status that includes unionization. That sounds innocent enough – until you understand that union rules fostered by the National Labor Relations Board (a government agency) would now guarantee those jobs would continue to be held by those who came to and reside in the USA illegally. Meanwhile, those US Citizens and Legal Residents who lost their jobs because those working in the USA illegally undercut them wage-wise would be frozen out from the jobs they used to hold as the law pushes the wages up to the levels they used to earn before they were undercut. Thus, unemployed Union Members become like fatted calves offered up for the slaughter.

That is the point of all this. The Illegal Immigrant comes into the USA and undercuts the wages of the Citizen or Legal Resident, takes their job, then turns around and gets our own government to increase the wages back up and guarantee that the job is not lost back to those who used to do it but are now unemployed. And it is especially great if you can get someone who has an impressive enough title to shake and bake a study so that it seems like everyone wins. Except for the fatted calf that no one sees sacrificed. Is that fair? Remember, a turkey dinner is great for everyone but the turkey. And the end result is one less turkey in the world.


Norski on Jan 15, 2010 at 09:23:27 said:

Paul/A - If you noticed my post below you will note that I have already commented on the obvious flaws that invalidate the study by Hinojosa-Ojeda. Before posting I actually read the study from cover to cover. And because of my profession I even understood it. What part of "What a poorly done study this is" did you not understand?

Also, your post brings up the Cato study. That study was just as poorly done. Here are some of the worst problems with the Cato Analysis:

1. They assume that if a working Illegal Immigrant becomes a working Legal Resident his or her worker productivity will go up. This is ridicules.
2. They assume that if the oversupply of Labor represented by Illegal Immigration dries up companies would have to hire more Lawyers, Accountants, and other Professionals, such as HR people to keep from getting sued.
3. The study assumes every Citizen Worker displaced by an Illegal Immigrant can find a job as a supervisor or higher level professional position.
4. This study directly links the supply of Capital to the number of workers. In fact, the supply of Capital is more connected to the wages of workers rather than the supply.
5. The study replicates the bogus assumption that Illegal Immigrants are doing jobs Americans won't do and it does not assume any impact on the cost of unemployment and welfare paid to unemployed USA Workers.
6. The study assumes that a smaller economy is bad and a larger economy is good. But in fact it is not the size of the economy that matters; it is the per capita average that matters. Mexico has a larger economy than does Canada. Who is better off? Canada is because it has a much larger per Capita Average GDP.
Conclusion: Cato adjusts the data to fit the conclusion and ignores data that throws the hypothesis into question. Just like the Hinojosa-Ojeda study.

I will even mention the father of both these studies that you apparently skipped in your rendition. The IPC Report by Rob Paral & Associates. It is fatally flawed when it comes to saying anything about ILLEGAL Immigration as well. The study hopes to hide any real effect on unemployment by Illegal Immigration in the statistics of Legal Immigrants whose entry into the USA is controlled so that those admitted have the least possible effect on unemployment.

Illegal Immigrants barely make up 22% of the USA Immigrant Population per a recent Pew Center estimate. This seems large and yet statically any visible effect this group has is washed out by the 78% of Immigrants who came here legally. And the predominance of data used in this study per the Authors comes from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and the U.S. Census Bureau. Both are notorious in claiming that they do not even try to identify if Illegal Immigrants are part of their numbers because they "hide in the shadows” where they cannot see them. Hiding the statistics of a smaller group in a larger group and then claiming the analysis says anything about the smaller group is statistical fraud.

Beware of flawed studies. I would not be as harsh as to quote Samuel Clemens who once said "Figures don't lie, but liars figure." Instead I would state that in the Study of Economics each Economist is characterized by what data he or she chooses to ignore. Walter Heller, Chief Economist for John F. Kennedy once described this with the Joke "If you lined all the Economists in the World end to end they would all point in different directions". What the Economist chooses to ignore makes the results of the study either able to describe real world happenings or only useful as an analytical exercise that shows he or she can do complex math. In the case of these three studies I am sure that the analysts truly believe that they made wonderful discoveries. But the data that is ignored or the assumptions that are made make them inapplicable to the real world.

If I jump out of a plane and get caught in an updraft and fly high above the plane does that mean that everyone who jumps out of a plane is going to have a similar experience? No. But if I limit the data to only my experience I could prove that everyone will go upward when they jump out of a plane. These studies are the analytical equivalent of this.


Paul/A on Jan 14, 2010 at 17:43:28 said:

To : Norski

You are requested to read this latest scholarly article. Don't say these scholars also lack knowledge in economics:

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A new report, “Raising the Floor for American Workers: The Economic Benefits of Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” by Dr. Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda, finds that comprehensive immigration reform that includes a legalization program for unauthorized immigrants and enables a future flow of legal workers would result in a large economic benefit—a cumulative $1.5 trillion in added U.S. gross domestic product over 10 years. In stark contrast, a deportation- only policy would result in a loss of $2.6 trillion in GDP over 10 years.

Hinojosa uses a computable general equilibrium model based on the historical experience of the 1986 legalization program, and finds that:

Comprehensive immigration reform that includes a legalization program for unauthorized immigrants would stimulate the U.S. economy.
Immigration reform would increase U.S. GDP by at least 0.84 percent. This would translate into at least a $1.5 trillion cumulative increase in GDP over 10 years, which includes approximately $1.2 trillion in consumption and $256 billion in investment.

The benefits of additional GDP growth would be spread broadly throughout the U.S. economy, but immigrant-heavy sectors such as textiles, electronic equipment, and construction would see particularly large increases.

The higher earning power of newly legalized workers would mean increased tax revenues of $4.5 billion to $5.4 billion in the first three years.

Higher personal income would also generate increased consumer spending—enough to support 750,000 to 900,000 jobs in the United States.

Experience shows that legalized workers open bank accounts, buy homes, and start businesses, further stimulating the U.S. economy.
Comprehensive immigration reform increases all workers’ wages.
The real wages of less-skilled newly legalized workers would increase by roughly $4,405 per year, while higher-skilled workers would see their income increase $6,185 per year. The wages of native-born high-skill and low-skill U.S. workers also increase modestly under comprehensive immigration reform because the “wage floor” rises for all workers.

Legalized workers invest more in their human capital, including education, job training, and English-language skills, making them even more productive workers and higher earners.
Mass deportation is costly, lowers wages, and harms the U.S. economy.
Mass deportation would reduce U.S. GDP by 1.46 percent, amounting to a cumulative $2.6 trillion loss in GDP over 10 years, not including the actual costs of deportation. The Center for American Progress has estimated that mass deportation would cost $206 billion to $230 billion over five years.

Wages would rise for less-skilled native-born workers under a mass deportation scenario, but higher-skilled natives’ wages would decrease, and there would be widespread job loss.
Studies from various researchers with divergent political perspectives confirm these findings.
A report by the libertarian CATO Institute using a similar CGE model came to startlingly similar conclusions. CATO found that legalization would yield significant income gains for American workers and households. Legalization would boost the incomes of U.S. households by $180 billion in 2019. CATO also concluded that tighter restrictions and a reduction in less-skilled immigration would impose large costs on native-born Americans by shrinking the overall economy and lowering worker productivity.

A study by the national dairy industry confirmed the essential role of immigrant labor in that sector. A loss of just 50 percent of immigrant dairy workers would lower dairy farm sales by $6.7 billion and reduce total economic output by $11.2 billion. Removing all immigrant dairy workers would cost nearly 133,000 U.S. jobs, affecting both immigrant and native-born workers.

An analysis by the farm credit system in the Northeast found that an enforcement-only regime would result in jobs lost, farms closed, and farmland converted to other uses. Approximately 800 farms would be at high risk in New York alone; this would cost $700 million in lost production, 7,000 on-farm jobs, and nearly 16,000 off-farm but farm dependent jobs.

A new study from the University of Southern California concludes that legalizing California’s unauthorized Latino immigrants would boost California’s economy. California’s unauthorized Latino population would have earned $29.6 billion last year if they had been legal—this is $2.2 billion more than they actually earned. This growth would spur direct consumption spending by approximately $1.75 billion, which would ripple throughout the state economy generating an additional $1.5 billion in indirect local spending. This increase would generate more than 25,000 additional jobs in the state, $310 million in additional state income taxes, and $1.4 billion in additional federal income taxes.
For more on this topic see:

Raising the Floor for American Workers: The Economic Benefits of Comprehensive Immigration Reform by Dr. Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda


Norski on Jan 14, 2010 at 10:52:39 said:

Paul/A - Apparently you have never studied any real Economics. Because you just made so many erroneous statements.

1. Fees paid to the government are not part of GDP. Think of it this way, if payments go into producing a private product or service, it is included in GDP. If it is a government transfer payment it is not part of GDP. Therefore no amount of fees, taxes, or redistribution of wealth can change GDP. The only activity that the government can do that changes GDP is to buy stuff, like computers or autos, or to give subsidies that help the people buy more of these things, but even this transfer payment means that someone else is buying less of something else somewhere.

2. Jobs are a function of Capital in the economy. Every job requires a place to work, tools to work with, raw material to turn into something of greater value, and wages to support the worker. By definition this is GDP. Without Capital to finance all this there is no GDP expanding job. Where does this capital come from in any economy? From those who have money, which is what Capital is. Even if the money is borrowed, it has to come from somewhere originally. If government is supplying this money, then jobs are only created where government wants them to be. And the Government had to take it from someone else who would have put it to a similar use. And if the people are not interested in what the government has to offer then what is produced has no value and thus does not increase GDP. In a capitalist economy this capital is channeled to where it provides the most return, otherwise know as profit, which also expands GDP. This process is usually directed toward hiring people because the road to highest profit is through producing things THAT PEOPLE WANT. This process is called investment. If government taxes away this money too heavily, fewer jobs are created.

In 1987 our economy stabilized at about 67% of our population seeking employment. From 1987 to 2007 before the current recession started the USA was only able to create an average of 1.66 million new jobs per year. This limit was not reached because of limits on Immigration as there never was a time in this period where the USA achieved what economists define as full employment. In fact, during the decade of the 90’s the number Americans unemployed and looking for work never fell below 9 million and in the current decade the number of Americans looking for work never fell below 12 million. A limit on jobs growth during this time existed because jobs growth is based on the growth of Capital needed to create jobs, rather than on population. Twice I have lived in local areas that achieved full employment. Both times local unemployment reached 2%. You cannot get below this because there are always people in transition between jobs. Why can't we achieve this nationwide? When you look back at our number of workers in the USA since the last CIR in 1986 you find that native population growth and Legal Immigration has tracked with job creation. It is Illegal Immigration that has added extra workers that prevented us from achieving full employment. By adding workers to our economy far beyond that rate at which capital has expanded to create jobs Illegal Immigration has led to chronic unemployment.

Walter Heller, Chief Economist to John F. Kennedy used to like to say only God could repeal the law of supply and demand. No where has he been proven more right that in the Illegal Immigration situation. The oversupply of labor in the unskilled labor markets thanks to Illegal Immigration has been documented to have caused an 8% decline in unskilled labor wages. In construction work this wage decline has been documented to be 11% and in material movement occupations this decline has been documented to be 13%. Both are forces that push an economy toward recession. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that increasing house prices while wages fall could eventually result in an economic crash. And guess what – we got one!


Paul/A on Jan 14, 2010 at 05:56:46 said:

Unemployment will always be there whether you legalize the undocumented immigrants or not. As the economy grows, the new force labor will reach a saturation. Industries are developing and expanding.

Secondly, no immigrant paid any fee or penalty in those days that could have contributed to the economy. In this new immigration reform, they are planning to impose a penalty of $3000 per person. That will generate lot of finance in the governmental sector. That will boost the economy.


Norski on Jan 13, 2010 at 16:41:25 said:

Paul/A - I have been to China and worked there. Have you? They have a smaller GDP than we do yet they have four times the population, so there is still much poverty and a lot more economic growth needed.

But let us look at America instead of some pie in the sky global ideal. Per the US Bureau of Labor Statistics Unemployment Report of Jan. 8, 2010:

Construction and extraction occupations = 22.5% Unemployment
Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations = 21.8% Unemployment
Production occupations = 14.7% Unemployment
Transportation, material moving occupations = 12.2% Unemployment
Service occupations = 10.2% Unemployment

Total US Unemployed Citizens and Legal Residents = 15,267,000
The figures above exclude 6,306,000 Persons who want a job but are not included for various reasons.
Total Number of Americans Looking for Work = 21,573,000

Pew Study estimate of working Illegal Immigrants = 7,500,000
The majority work in agriculture, office and house cleaning, construction, and food preparation. Only in Agriculture does the number of working Illegal Immigrants exceed the number of unemployed Americans. But not by much.

Meanwhile Management, professional, and related occupations = 4.6% Unemployment

And if you compare the Pew Center list of the top ten states by estimated Illegal Immigrant population, the estimated percentage of working Illegal Immigrants is about half the unemployment rate or less in each state, showing that there is no individual state that would have a shortage of workers and a shrinking GDP without illegal immigration. Remember that GDP is a function of those who work, not those who get transfer payments such as unemployment and welfare.

This data shows how much Illegal Immigration has devastated US labor markets. Where is the outrage for the 7.5 million Citizens and Legal Residents who could be working but cannot find a job thanks to Illegal Immigrants? They have children and spouses. Why does no one supporting Illegal Immigration seem to care about all these American families being ripped apart by unemployment?


Paul/A on Jan 13, 2010 at 09:59:15 said:

Hi Norski,

United States is as big as China in terms of geographical area. Every society has different layers of employment say for example labors, supervisors, managers, proprietors. China is one of the leading economies in the world at least for now. China has more than 1.25 billion population one of the major factor contributing to the development and progress of their economy. Those who are in the US without document did not come here to live their dream life. Finding two times meal is harder in their country and they are trying make both ends meet. It is not justifiable that they are branded as criminals, take away your jobs. There are so many jobs like cab drivers, drain cleaning, harvesting, meat industry. How many white Americans are interested in working in these industries? Are you ready?

Be humane and treat other with respect and dignity. You seem to lack these. Jesus Christ said "Treat strangers with respect". You are a man without heart. There is no sense in talking to people like you. Have you ever been out this country? Have you been Africa? Did you meet any of them? Do you know what the outside world look like? Anyway you are not the one who is going to decide!


N orski on Jan 12, 2010 at 07:43:53 said:

To Paul/A

I am afraid that it is you who really does not understand how the world works. Illegal Immigration with periodic Legalization allows the economic enslavement of most of the Western Hemisphere.

Bringing in millions of Illegal Immigrants to create an oversupply of Labor in the Unskilled Labor Market is Labor Pool Economics, the Robber Baron’s tool of choice. If Business can maintain a large enough pool of unemployed workers Business can drive wages down into the cellar.

Five times from 1850 and 1914 large waves of immigrants came to the USA. Each wave ended with high unemployment, economic recession, and falling wages. Unemployment of 30% in California was behind the ridiculous Chinese Exclusion Act. Ellis Island was opened against a backdrop of unemployment exceeding 50% in the states of Maine, Kansas, and Michigan. Unemployment reached 32% for unskilled labor in 1910 thanks to uncontrolled immigration. That is why we now control immigration and limit it to our ability to create jobs.

Because we now have limits on Immigration, Illegal Immigration is the only way to create the Labor Pool of unemployed. And hording economic development in our own backyard so other countries stay poor means this supply of cheap Labor never dries up. When caught business whines and cries and pushes to give illegal workers legal status, then cranks up Illegal Immigration again when no one is looking.

Also, you forget that it is Business that competes. Not economies. Are we competing against the Japanese economy? No! You cannot trade with another country unless that country has something to trade. Our companies compete against Japanese companies. Do you buy a Toyota or a Ford because one is better than the other for what you want? Or do you buy the Ford because it is made by an American company and skip the Toyota? Most people do not realize that both cars are manufactured in the U.S. employing American Workers. Yet both companies compete.

Here is where a huge misconception lies. That all economic development in the USA is good for the USA and all economic development elsewhere is bad for the USA. But in fact, in the past, when the USA had more jobs than there were workers, excess jobs were exported to other countries. A few decades ago that resulted in the economic development of Korea, Taiwan, and the other economic powers of the Pacific called the Four Tigers. Remember the Marshall Plan? Did either destroy the US Economy? No!

Today those who want to exploit poorer countries to import cheap labor into the USA use outsourcing as the universal boogeyman. But in fact, outsourcing at full employment is not outsourcing at all but rather is foreign expansion that is no threat to the US worker.

Let’s look at Mexico as an example of what could have been had Illegal Immigrants never entered the USA and we had reached full employment and sent jobs to Mexico instead. Per the Pew Hispanic Center six million Mexicans have illegally immigrated to the USA, over three million of which are working. Per the CIA World Fact Book the 2006 GDP (Gross Domestic Product) of Mexico was $741.5 billion and the Labor Force numbered 38 million. That means that the average GDP per working person was $19,513. If the USA had exported three million jobs to Mexico and paid the average GDP rate (a mere $9.38/hr.) and the six million illegal immigrants would have stayed home, we would have pumped $59 billion in wages into the Mexican economy. In the USA economy approximately 57% of our GDP is made up of wages. Wages generate business, which in turn generates more wages, which in turn generate more business. Assuming this same job multiplier for Mexico means an additional $59 billion in wages added to the Mexican economy that would increase the GDP of Mexico by more that $103 billion or 14%. And the GDP of the USA would increase by as much a $5 billion with repatriated profits.

But instead if this win-win situation, greedy people want a continued source of cheap labor and like true misers they what to keep economic development in their own backyard while denying it to other countries, dislocating millions of people. Congratulations! As a supporter of Illegal Immigration you helped build this well oiled machine of exploitation.

Back in 1808 the northern states of the US ganged up on the southern states and passed a law forbidding the importation of new slaves to the USA. This was the beginning of the end of slavery in the USA because it started a process that eventually made slavery uneconomical. Please explain to me how those who try to sabotage law enforcement meant to stop Illegal Immigration are any different that those who tried to run the US blockade meant to stop the importation of slaves after 1808.


Kathleen on Jan 12, 2010 at 07:24:28 said:

When does pro amnesty propaganda pass for a serious study on immigration reform. Anyone who reads this so called "study" can see thru its biased slant. Give me a break. How about we do a study on illegal immigration to Mexico ?


Paul/A on Jan 11, 2010 at 14:38:54 said:

Hi Norski,

This is in response to your comment on this column. You should start thinking broad leaving behind the narrow-mindedness. You should learn to look at the world as one nation. The days you were sitting at home and claiming unemployment, sitting on a cozy couch watching tv are gone. The world is becoming smaller and smaller day to day. Like water keeps flowing until it reaches the point where it cannot move any further, people from one country to other were migrating, are migrating and will migrate. You stand nowhere to stop the natural process. If you think, you have no potential to compete with a foreigner who comes to this country illegally, stop calling yourself an American. The days white Americans treated Africans as slaves are not forgotten. The days Europeans migrated to America and pushed native Indians to the edge of their lives cannot be forgotten. Where are those native Americans? Your comment clearly shows you are person with no taste or flavor - INSIPID. Where did your forefathers come from? You must learn to compete. That is the bottom line of my comment.
Thanks.


Restore Fairness on Jan 11, 2010 at 14:29:04 said:

We need workable solutions that unite us together - and reform that respects due process and fairness allows us to celebrate the values that we hold dear - fairness, opportunity and due process. When we deny due process to some people, ultimately it will affect all of us. To hear more stories about why we need reform and to take action go to www.restorefairness.org.


Norski on Jan 11, 2010 at 09:25:35 said:

If you actually read this study you would find that its most problematic aspect is that it uses models designed to look at international trade. Last time I looked, American jobs are influenced less by international trade and more by domestic consumption. It is kind of like saying you can describe an elephant by a statistical analysis of its trunk.


Norski on Jan 11, 2010 at 08:47:20 said:

What a poorly done study this UCLA study is. The gentleman who did this study is a Social Studies Professor, not an Economics Professor.

No effort was made to study the overall job market effects of Illegal Immigration. Thus, the truly obvious conclusion is that if you legalize Illegal Immigrants they will have higher wages. Well duh!

Here are some hard economic facts. In 1987 our economy stabilized at about 67% of our population seeking employment. From 1987 to 2007 before the current recession started the USA was only able to create an average of 1.66 million new jobs per year. This limit was not reached because of limits on Immigration as there never was a time in this period where the USA achieved what economists define as full employment. In fact, during the decade of the 90’s the number Americans unemployed and looking for work never fell below 9 million and in the current decade the number of Americans looking for work never fell below 12 million. A limit on jobs growth exists because jobs growth is based on the growth of Capital needed to create jobs, rather than on population. So additional immigrants who come illegally with little capital mean that an equal number of people wind up in the unemployment line.

Since this study does not look at those people who could be working but are not because an Illegal Immigrant took their job then was legalized, the study is almost worthless. And to make it even more worthless, the study assumes that if all Illegal Immigrants left the USA they would take all the jobs they are working with them. I guess that is what happens when a Professor who is in the social sciences attempts a hard science economic analysis. Maybe next time he should leave it to a Professor of Economics.


Max9010 on Jan 10, 2010 at 11:19:20 said:

For those who want all immigrants to be deported and put them in prisons if they come back, you are not really helping America escape this recession. This unproductive and uneducated way of thinking only creates more problems. 12 deported immigrants will certainly return regardless of what you think and keep in mind that it is impossible to deport them. Imprisoning 12 million immigrants will cost us about 40 trillion dollars and that will only make our economy weaker and send us to become the 10th economy of the world right below Mexico. Immigrants don´t receive money back from what the government takes from them infact they are the ones paying for your children´s education and the bread that you put in your mouth when you receive free government money. Reconsider the way you think because America is a union of immgrants from all over the world who work hard to solve solutions in order to become the greatest in the world. For those who are angry and mad please be and let all your anger out now because these people will soon become the majority and they will pay your children with the same dollars that you are paying them. It seems that some of you just want immigrants to leave so your children can pick fruit and get a PHD on toilet cleaning, well gues what after you read this you will finally realize that you are not an American, that you are the problem, and real Americans or soon to become Americans will get rid of their problems for the future of their American children.

when reading the blog of immigration reform and i read some of the comment and i know why this people are so mad with the illegal immigrant.. they seem they are selfish and narrow minded and they do not want the law to be change. and offer no solution what united states of america are facing some of them say deport all illegal immigrant in the common sense how can you deport 12million illegal alien that scatter around the country its impossible its takes all our arm forces and police law enforcer to crack them down. now what happen this american criminal will takes its situation a opportunity to them to do more crime because nobody look over this bad guys and takes all the resources of the goverment its takes billion of dollar in looses.. and while we sending more of our american troops overseas to makes america safe why we dont start here back home to pay taxes and fine and criminal back ground to those are illegal alien togo out in the shadow to register because until now there is no back ground check to those ilegal alien living in the united states so we will know who are the people living inside our country its makes america secure and its good for our economy.. to those who are anti illegal immigrant are ignorant to america future and blaming other people with there failure in life..

The immigrant population has always made remarkable contribution in terms of economy as well as science and technology, whether it be legal or illegal. Many people who talk about immigration here have no knolwedge of what they talk about. More than 12 million undocumented immigrants current in this country are doing some kind of job. Many of them pay taxes as they earn and they are not entitled to any benefits accrued on this tax. This is an indirect contribution to the economy. The current lame-duck economy minus this indirect contribution from the undocumented immigrants means totally dead economy. Can you dispute this? Many cities and counties have stopped any kind of medical services to the undocumented immigrants. So your point of stating that public tax fund being used for THEIR medication is totally wrong. One in thousand happens to have criminal background. For this purpose, you cannot blame every immigrant is a criminal, as if there is not a single American committing any crime in this nation. Look before you leap and think before you frame your allegations against them.


David Nichols on Jan 10, 2010 at 05:28:32 said:

READ This to turn the light on in your Head!

This Recession started in January 2008, at the exact same time as E-verify, & The Deportations!

Got It Yet?

Mcfly?

This is America's I.C.D.ed E-conomy!

To: I.Q.'s


jojo on Jan 09, 2010 at 21:57:18 said:

when reading the blog of immigration reform and i read some of the comment and i know why this people are so mad with the illegal immigrant.. they seem they are selfish and narrow minded and they do not want the law to be change. and offer no solution what united states of america are facing some of them say deport all illegal immigrant in the common sense how can you deport 12million illegal alien that scatter around the country its impossible its takes all our arm forces and police law enforcer to crack them down. now what happen this american criminal will takes its situation a opportunity to them to do more crime because nobody look over this bad guys and takes all the resources of the goverment its takes billion of dollar in looses.. and while we sending more of our american troops overseas to makes america safe why we dont start here back home to pay taxes and fine and criminal back ground to those are illegal alien togo out in the shadow to register because until now there is no back ground check to those ilegal alien living in the united states so we will know who are the people living inside our country its makes america secure and its good for our economy.. to those who are anti illegal immigrant are ignorant to america future and blaming other people with there failure in life..


JOSUE SERRANO on Jan 09, 2010 at 20:12:16 said:

For those who want all immigrants to be deported and put them in prisons if they come back, you are not really helping America escape this recession. This unproductive and uneducated way of thinking only creates more problems. 12 deported immigrants will certainly return regardless of what you think and keep in mind that it is impossible to deport them. Imprisoning 12 million immigrants will cost us about 40 trillion dollars and that will only make our economy weaker and send us to become the 10th economy of the world right below Mexico. Immigrants don´t receive money back from what the government takes from them infact they are the ones paying for your children´s education and the bread that you put in your mouth when you receive free government money. Reconsider the way you think because America is a union of immgrants from all over the world who work hard to solve solutions in order to become the greatest in the world. For those who are angry and mad please be and let all your anger out now because these people will soon become the majority and they will pay your children with the same dollars that you are paying them. It seems that some of you just want immigrants to leave so your children can pick fruit and get a PHD on toilet cleaning, well gues what after you read this you will finally realize that you are not an American, that you are the problem, and real Americans or soon to become Americans will get rid of their problems for the future of their American children.


Paul/A on Jan 09, 2010 at 15:41:12 said:

The immigrant population has always made remarkable contribution in terms of economy as well as science and technology, whether it be legal or illegal. Many people who talk about immigration here have no knolwedge of what they talk about. More than 12 million undocumented immigrants current in this country are doing some kind of job. Many of them pay taxes as they earn and they are not entitled to any benefits accrued on this tax. This is an indirect contribution to the economy. The current lame-duck economy minus this indirect contribution from the undocumented immigrants means totally dead economy. Can you dispute this? Many cities and counties have stopped any kind of medical services to the undocumented immigrants. So your point of stating that public tax fund being used for THEIR medication is totally wrong. One in thousand happens to have criminal background. For this purpose, you cannot blame every immigrant is a criminal, as if there is not a single American committing any crime in this nation. Look before you leap and think before you frame your allegations against them.


Paul/A on Jan 09, 2010 at 15:37:17 said:

The immigrant population has always made remarkable contribution in terms of economy as well as science and technology, whether it be legal or illegal. Many people who talk about immigration here have no knolwedge of what they talk about. More than 12 million undocumented immigrants current in this country are doing some kind of job. Many of them pay taxes as they earn and they are not entitled to any benefits accrued on this tax. This is an indirect contribution to the economy. The current lame-duck economy minus this indirect contribution from the undocumented immigrants means totally dead economy. Can you dispute this? Many cities and counties have stopped any kind of medical services to the undocumented immigrants. So your point of stating that public tax fund being used for THEIR medication is totally wrong. One in thousand happens to have criminal background. For this purpose, you cannot blame every immigrant is a criminal, as if there is not a single American committing any crime in this nation. Look before you leap and think before you frame your allegations against them.


Carmen Benavides on Jan 09, 2010 at 12:22:17 said:

Immigration Reform also known as amnesty, will only help illegal aliens be more comfortable in this country. Illegals don't want to be U.S. citizens. They love and miss their country origin and come here with the hope of going back after they make money.
Amnesty will only bring more illegal aliens for the next amnesty and to work cheaper than the already amnestied illegals.
For those who think the government can make illegals pay fines, please call me. I have a bridge I want to sell.
Anybody who thinks they can make illegals learn English, also call me. I see a chance to unload my bridge.
The only thing left to do with illegal aliens is to deport them and throw them in prison if they come back illegally.


David Nichols on Jan 09, 2010 at 11:43:20 said:

To all Simpletons that think Immigration Reform is not Good:

This the worst Recession in U.S. History started at the exact same time as the E-verify Law, the I.C.E Deportaions, and the mass exodus of these good hard working Human's!

All States that Deported or starved away their hard working TAX BASE, as counted all along as CITIZENS by the U.S. Census Bureau to base the size of their Government Services on are now in Total Economic Kaos!

Phoenix (Pink Underware Queen Capitol) for example now has approx: 30% less TAX BASE, and is curently reducing Government to match!

Besides triggering the Crash of our Banking System, and putting a massive hole in the "Real Estaqte Bubble", these Immigrants now vacated dwellings have also made Phoenix approx: 30% overbuilt, Completely Halting Const./Growth, causing Arizona to have the highest number of lost Const. related jobs in the entire Country!

To those carrying signs and yelling "No Amnesty" I hope your maker allows you some.

These people's Hard,Devoted labor was and is our strong Economy's greatest Asset!

Persecuting them has cost us our jobs!

To: Good and Brotherhood from sea to shining sea.


Caroline on Jan 09, 2010 at 11:16:41 said:

To the person who suggested the studidest idea "uy a house, get a green card". Do you think that the illegals in the U.S. came here carrying $184,000 each. (Surely you are not suggesting that they borrow this money from the U.S. banks to buy these empty houses)


Jesus on Jan 09, 2010 at 10:36:19 said:

***

20 million illegal immigrant
pay a fine or fee of $3,000 per head not $500 and make them legal. AND save our
Housing Market. Do the Math…

20,000,000 (illegal) x $3,000 (FINE or FEE)= $60,000,000,000

And these people will pay each Avg. Tax $3,000 per year

Another 20,000,000 (legal) x $3,000 (TAX) = $60,000,000,000

That’s 120 BILLION into US Economy

This can be a GOOD JUMP START for this FALLING ECONOMY!!!

They (undocumented) have billions of DOLLARS under the mattress not in the BANKs


Joe Smith on Jan 09, 2010 at 07:44:05 said:

A new poll indicates that nearly three-quarters of Americans are not happy with the national state of illegal immigration.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey concluded that 73% of American favor a drop in the number of illegal immigrants. Almost a quarter of respondents, 22%, indicated that current levels were acceptable, and 3% favored an increase in illegal immigration.

According to CNN, the 73% result is the highest in the four years the company has been asking this question.

Further, the poll found that 37% of respondents want to see all illegal immigrants deported, and 23% believe that the number of undocumented immigrants should be lowered significantly.

Per CNN, 1,038 adult Americans were polled via telephone. Amnesty was a failed program in the Reagan era 1986, it is not smart to do this dog and pony show again. I think that an illegal alien should always be an illegal alien until such a time as they fhey return to their country of origin and apply to enter legally. Give the illegal aliens a card which states they are guest workers. You do not come into my home uninvited.


Vickie Arnold on Jan 09, 2010 at 06:44:04 said:

The Catholic/Hispanic population explosion in third world countries is swarming by the millions into the US to be given education, housing, and medical care. They are unskilled and are creating more gang activity. We do not need this ignorant hoard of needy people draining public money and requireing public money to provide translators.


K Vanni on Jan 09, 2010 at 06:28:22 said:

First of all I would like to address people who claim that not allowing illegal aliens to stay in the country legally, giving them amnesty is racism. It is not. It is an economic issue. I am not at all convinced that giving amnesty to illegal aliens would benefit the society financially. I am mixed about being upset with them because they are lawbreakers, because honestly, given the conditions many of them face in their country of origin, how can you blame them. I also know that most of our illegal aliens do have a strong work ethic and also strong family ties which is of benefit to our society. Unfortunately because of being under educated and under skilled many of them would continue to put downward pressure on wages even if they were legal. Some of them, those who have good skills in our language, no criminal records, pay taxes and have been in this country a long time should be granted amnesty, but we cannot afford to give amnesty to so many illegals at this time, because of the economy, so many need to be deported. We need to tighten the border to make it harder for people to enter this country illegally and at the same time perhaps increase the numbers of legal immigrants that we allow to enter the country each year. We should require that both legal and illegal immigrants from all over the world have the ability to speak and understand our language before granting them citizenship, unless they entered the country legally at an advanced age, when it is more difficult to learn a new language. We should offer all of the classes and tutoring that a person needs to be proficient in our language so that they can become citizens and get better jobs, ect. We also should offer amnesty to anyone who entered the country with their parents at a young age, maybe under 12 who has been educated in this country (at least a high school graduate) and is now an adult, because it is not their fault that they entered the country illegally and in most cases they are comfortable with our language and culture and also have a decent education so that they can get ahead in this country. The truth is that right now, with the economy, so many illegals are a problem, but over the long haul, we need plenty of young immigrants. Our population is aging. The Social Security system is on a pay as you go basis and we need more young workers to keep it solvent. We need to do some deporting right now to keep their huge number from being a financial drain on our system, but when times get better and there are plenty of jobs, we should perhaps let many of these people back in legally if they have been good citizens while they were her illegally. We also need to pressure Mexico to do whatever it takes to give more economic opportunity to its citizens. It is a country with many natural resources (much potential wealth), but the system seems to favor the rich getting richer and keeping the poor man down. These are good hard-working people and Mexico would be much better off if they would put things in place to help get poor people into the middle class. They shouldn't have to come to this country in order to have a decent life. It is not fair to them and it is not fair to us.


R>Patel on Jan 08, 2010 at 22:22:26 said:

Our country was founded & developed on immigrants, as well as a culturally rich nation, based on diversity from the immigrants. I am a US born citizen married to an Indian immigrant & I too once did not care to much or shall I say not interested in nor understand the whole immigrant issues that we are facing today... but as I see it today our unemployment rates are not going down until the economy financially can recover. this will not happen till the American dollar can become stronger, come on people lets be real .... quit being socially racist and get the whole big picture here... not only are there foreclosures from so many unemployed but there are too many new housing sitting there, come on people the housing market has to grow our financial sector has to get a kick through purchasing and investment not from stimulus spending or unemploment extension cause there are a whole lot of unemployment recipients draining our economy not wanting a job! Our country needs these immigrants to come out in the open allow them to make home purchases give them social security #'s to open checking and savings for gods sake let them pay taxes, cause there are so many that WANT TO PAY TAXES and simply can not. We need this more than ever we can not keep this country afloat in stimulus bailouts so before you make that grassroots call to your senator or state representative read the news get the whole big picture before jumping on a band wagon & screaming "DEPORT THE ILLEGALS" yeah yeah they broke the law coming here but so what. when was the last time you did as well? HEll look how many reports are out on government employees behind on taxes... come on now just how damn AMERICAN is that? LIKE it or not our country needs this reform we need it before our country hits rock bottom cause if we don't do something fast it is gonna get worse, it will we have not seen anything yet! THINK ABOUT IT! I do not have college degree, I do not have any association to any of the groups out there protesting, I simply am an american that knows how to think for myself and read to undersatnd and not allow my neighbor or friend to dominate my mind or heart politically.


R>Patel on Jan 08, 2010 at 22:12:59 said:

Our country was founded & developed on immigrants, as well as a culturally rich nation, based on diversity from the immigrants. I am a US born citizen married to an Indian immigrant & I too once did not care to much or shall I say not interested in nor understand the whole immigrant issues that we are facing today... but as I see it today our unemployment rates are not going down until the economy financially can recover. this will not happen till the American dollar can become stronger, come on people lets be real .... quit being socially racist and get the whole big picture here... not only are there foreclosures from so many unemployed but there are too many new housing sitting there, come on people the housing market has to grow our financial sector has to get a kick through purchasing and investment not from stimulus spending or unemploment extension cause there are a whole lot of unemployment recipients draining our economy not wanting a job! Our country needs these immigrants to come out in the open allow them to make home purchases give them social security #'s to open checking and savings for gods sake let them pay taxes, cause there are so many that WANT TO PAY TAXES and simply can not. We need this more than ever we can not keep this country afloat in stimulus bailouts so before you make that grassroots call to your senator or state representative read the news get the whole big picture before jumping on a band wagon & screaming "DEPORT THE ILLEGALS" yeah yeah they broke the law coming here but so what. when was the last time you did as well? HEll look how many reports are out on government employees behind on taxes... come on now just how damn AMERICAN is that? LIKE it or not our country needs this reform we need it before our country hits rock bottom cause if we don't do something fast it is gonna get worse, it will we have not seen anything yet! THINK ABOUT IT! I do not have college degree, I do not have any association to any of the groups out there protesting, I simply am an american that knows how to think for myself and read to undersatnd and not allow my neighbor or friend to dominate my mind or heart politically.


R>Patel on Jan 08, 2010 at 22:07:11 said:

Our country was founded & developed on immigrants, as well as a culturally rich nation, based on diversity from the immigrants. I am a US born citizen married to an Indian immigrant & I too once did not care to much or shall I say not interested in nor understand the whole immigrant issues that we are facing today... but as I see it today our unemployment rates are not going down until the economy financially can recover. this will not happen till the American dollar can become stronger, come on people lets be real .... quit being socially racist and get the whole big picture here... not only are there foreclosures from so many unemployed but there are too many new housing sitting there, come on people the housing market has to grow our financial sector has to get a kick through purchasing and investment not from stimulus spending or unemploment extension cause there are a whole lot of unemployment recipients draining our economy not wanting a job! Our country needs these immigrants to come out in the open allow them to make home purchases give them social security #'s to open checking and savings for gods sake let them pay taxes, cause there are so many that WANT TO PAY TAXES and simply can not. We need this more than ever we can not keep this country afloat in stimulus bailouts so before you make that grassroots call to your senator or state representative read the news get the whole big picture before jumping on a band wagon & screaming "DEPORT THE ILLEGALS" yeah yeah they broke the law coming here but so what. when was the last time you did as well? HEll look how many reports are out on government employees behind on taxes... come on now just how damn AMERICAN is that? LIKE it or not our country needs this reform we need it before our country hits rock bottom cause if we don't do something fast it is gonna get worse, it will we have not seen anything yet! THINK ABOUT IT! I do not have college degree, I do not have any association to any of the groups out there protesting, I simply am an american that knows how to think for myself and read to undersatnd and not allow my neighbor or friend to dominate my mind or heart politically.


Jesus on Jan 08, 2010 at 22:03:58 said:

Ideal Immigration Reform & Earned Citizenship

1. If you are in the United States and out of status but enter the country with inspection, must show I-94 (Arrival – Departure Record) or other entry documents.

A) 20 years plus stay in the US : you will get a green card immediately.
(must show past Federal Tax for 18 years)
B) 15 years plus stay in the US : you will get a green card after 1 year.
(must show past Federal Tax for 13 years)
C) 10 years plus stay in the US : you will get a green card after 5 years.
(must show past Federal Tax for 8 years)
D) 5 years plus stay in the US : you will get a green card after 10 years.
(must show past Federal Tax for 3 years)
E) less than 5 years stay in the US : you will get a green card after 12 years.

2. If you are in the United States and out of status but enter the country without inspection, cannot show I-94 (Arrival – Departure Record) or other entry documents.

a) You will be given a special visa to go back to your country and a guaranteed return (within 90 days), and inspection with USCIS.
b) After 12 years you will get a green card.

3. If you are in the United States and out of status but accompanied by your parents before the age of 16.

a) You will be given a special visa to go back to your country and a guaranteed return (within 90 days), and inspection with USCIS.
b) You must have lived continuously in the U.S. for at least 5 years
c) You must either complete 2 years of collage or serve in the military for a minimum of 2 years.
d) You will get a green card after your 26th birthday.

4. You must pay $3000 fee to USCIS regardless of your status to process your application.
5. All applicants must prove their common English language skills within one year after you file your application.
6. Pass a background check with FBI.
7. Barred from any Federal Welfare Program until you get your Green Card.
8. If you are married and have children (under 21) they will be united to you immediately.
9. You must prove each year as a TAX PAYER. Must pay $2000 or more per year FEDERAL TAX. If you pay $5,000 or more FEDERAL TAX, you can expedite your application process by one year. $10,000 or more by two years and $15,000 or more by three years.
10. All applicants will be issued a 5 years Work Authorization Card immediately.
11. You can travel outside the country but cannot stay more than 90 days.
12. After you get your green card, 2 years later you will become a US Citizen.


Jesus on Jan 08, 2010 at 21:42:37 said:

Ideal Immigration Reform & Earned Citizenship

1. If you are in the United States and out of status but enter the country with inspection, must show I-94 (Arrival – Departure Record) or other entry documents.

A) 20 years plus stay in the US : you will get a green card immediately.
(must show past Federal Tax for 18 years)
B) 15 years plus stay in the US : you will get a green card after 1 year.
(must show past Federal Tax for 13 years)
C) 10 years plus stay in the US : you will get a green card after 5 years.
(must show past Federal Tax for 8 years)
D) 5 years plus stay in the US : you will get a green card after 10 years.
(must show past Federal Tax for 3 years)
E) less than 5 years stay in the US : you will get a green card after 12 years.

2. If you are in the United States and out of status but enter the country without inspection, cannot show I-94 (Arrival – Departure Record) or other entry documents.

a) You will be given a special visa to go back to your country and a guaranteed return (within 90 days), and inspection with USCIS.
b) After 12 years you will get a green card.

3. If you are in the United States and out of status but accompanied by your parents before the age of 16.

a) You will be given a special visa to go back to your country and a guaranteed return (within 90 days), and inspection with USCIS.
b) You must have lived continuously in the U.S. for at least 5 years
c) You must either complete 2 years of collage or serve in the military for a minimum of 2 years.
d) You will get a green card after your 26th birthday.

4. You must pay $3000 fee to USCIS regardless of your status to process your application.
5. All applicants must prove their common English language skills within one year after you file your application.
6. Pass a background check with FBI.
7. Barred from any Federal Welfare Program until you get your Green Card.
8. If you are married and have children (under 21) they will be united to you immediately.
9. You must prove each year as a TAX PAYER. Must pay $2000 or more per year FEDERAL TAX. If you pay $5,000 or more FEDERAL TAX, you can expedite your application process by one year. $10,000 or more by two years and $15,000 or more by three years.
10. All applicants will be issued a 5 years Work Authorization Card immediately.
11. You can travel outside the country but cannot stay more than 90 days.
12. After you get your green card, 2 years later you will become a US Citizen.


Jesus on Jan 08, 2010 at 21:39:32 said:

It is disturbing that in XXI century America millions of hard-working immigrants have no rights and are forced to live in the shadows. So much for "the beacon of democracy"! Congress MUST pass a comrehensive immigration reform NOW! Not next year, not in 2012! No more excuses and delays!

History will judge us harshly for yet another cruelty perpetrated by our politicians!

We can go to Iraq and Afganistan to REFORM their way of life, spending our TRILLIONS of dollars tax payer money. Why can’t we REFORM our own Immigration System here?


Marcelo on Jan 08, 2010 at 19:01:43 said:

The truth is that ILLEGALS are encouraged for only two reasons:
a) they put down pressure on salaries
b) illegals become voting citizens sooner or later who tend to vote Democrat
Just watch the C-span archive of March 13, 2007 ... Greenspan inadvertently stated reason a)above


patric on Jan 08, 2010 at 16:20:10 said:

I figurd these kinds of articles would surface just when the immigration reform is about to be brought up again. Don't be fooled american citizens, it just another trick to fool us in to believing they are helping us if they are given amnesty. There is no logical way that millions of illegals can help the economy if they become legal. Wise up......don't be fooled by these people. The rich just want to stay rich no matter what the sacrafice and their the only people that the illegals can possibly help.


Stephan on Jan 08, 2010 at 15:52:23 said:

Respected financial columnist Scott Burns, in a Dallas Morning News article today, reports a unique proposition to solve our country's housing crisis by opening the borders to immigrants who can afford to buy homes in the United States, and then granting citizenship to those immigrants. While this is an economic solution and not an immigration solution, I thought the article was worth mentioning. Here are excerpts from the column:
Our friends in Washington continue to reward witless members of the financial sector. Meanwhile, those of us who don't fly Bonus Class are thinking about importing guillotines from France.
Thankfully, we may not need to place the order.
All we have to do is to get Washington to listen to the best idea I've heard to end the decline of housing prices and restore our confidence in the most important asset most Americans ever own. The idea comes from economist A. Gary Shilling and real estate developer Richard S. Lefrak.
Their suggestion: Don't think about artificially low mortgage interest rates and other stopgaps. Instead, eliminate the oversupply of houses. And, by the way, don't spend a dime of taxpayer money doing it.
How can this be done? Simple: Open our borders to immigrants who can buy a home in the U.S. Let a million immigrants a year do this for two years, and the entire oversupply of homes and condos will be absorbed. Supply will no longer dwarf demand. Prices will stabilize. The most important asset owned by the vast majority of Americans will, once again, be a source of pride and security.
There has been much attention paid to the incredible decline of equity markets around the world, but the vast majority of Americans have far more at risk in the housing market than in any financial asset (bank accounts, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc). Indeed, many Americans have more at risk in the used-car market than in the stock market.
The middle-income
Households in the middle of the income distribution owned a primary home worth a median of $150,000 but had median financial assets of only $18,600. Middle-income Americans, in other words, have about eight times as much to lose in the home resale market as in all of the financial markets.
Shilling estimates that we built 6.7 million excess houses during the boom from 1996 to 2005. Of that number, 3.9 million were built to make up for underbuilding during the 1987-1991 S&L collapse. That leaves an excess of 2.8 million homes – about two years of building. He estimates that less building in 2007 and 2008 reduced the surplus to about 2.4 million houses.
Influx of buyers
Reducing interest rates or resetting mortgage payments won't reduce that surplus. The only way it will disappear is if new customers appear and buy those homes. The fastest way to do this is to offer citizenship to immigrants as a reward for buying a home in America.
Here's the formula: Buy a home. Save America. Become a citizen. It's a suggestion that's admirably direct compared to the expensive, complex programs that Congress has already funded.
Shilling writes: "If the current excess of 2.4 million houses were purchased at today's median home price of about $184,000, the inflow from foreigners would be $88 billion, assuming they put 20 percent down and borrowed the rest in this country.
"If they paid cash, the inflow would be $442 billion. Besides stimulating the domestic economy, this would vastly help the U.S. foreign accounts and support the dollar. The mere announcement of this program would probably go a long way toward stabilizing house prices."
And stabilizing house prices is very important. It may be the whole ballgame. Without productive action, Shilling estimates home prices will fall an additional 20 percent by the end of 2010. That would leave nearly 25 million homeowners upside down, or owing more on their homes than they are worth.
This is something worth writing about to your representative or senator.


Stephan de Paz on Jan 08, 2010 at 15:50:59 said:

UCLA study says legalizing undocumented immigrants would help the economy
Based on surveys done after the 1986 amnesty program, it concludes that even during the recession, legalizing undocumented workers would benefit the economy. Not everyone agrees.
By Anna Gorman
January 7, 2010

Even during the ongoing recession, immigration reform legislation that legalizes undocumented immigrants would boost the American economy, according to a new study out of UCLA.

The report said that legalization, along with a program that allows for future immigration based on the labor market, would create jobs, increase wages and generate more tax revenue. Comprehensive immigration reform would add an estimated $1.5 trillion to the U.S. gross domestic product over 10 years, according to the report.

"If we are going to create a solid recovery with good wages, we have to fix this hole that we have at the bottom of the labor market," said the author, Raúl Hinojosa-Ojeda, an associate professor with the UCLA Department of Chicana and Chicano Studies. "This is not about bringing in a lot of workers. This is about your neighbors and if we are better off where everybody in the economy has the ability to fight for their families and to contribute more to the economy rather than staying in the shadows."

Hinojosa-Ojeda based the study in part on surveys done after 1986 legislation that resulted in the legalization of nearly 3 million undocumented immigrants. Those surveys showed that immigrants who became legal moved on to better-paying jobs and became more educated, resulting in more spending and more tax revenue. That legislation was passed during a similar economic downturn, he said.

The study, being released today, comes shortly after a renewed commitment by the Obama administration to back legislation this year that would provide a path to citizenship for an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States. The study is being released by two Washington-based immigrant rights organizations, the Immigration Policy Center and the Center for American Progress.

Hinojosa-Ojeda also projected that the economy would benefit from a temporary worker program, by raising the GDP by $792 billion. And the economy would suffer if the U.S. deported all illegal immigrants, which he acknowledged was an unlikely option. Mass deportation, he concluded, would reduce the GDP by $2.6 trillion over 10 years.

Immigration reform advocates said linking economic recovery and immigration reform seems counterintuitive, but the report shows that they are closely connected.

"You can't build a strong, robust economy on top of a broken immigration system," said Angela Kelley, vice president of immigration policy and advocacy for the Center for American Progress. "In fact, if you fix our immigration system, it makes our economy stronger and more robust."

But Federation for American Immigration Reform spokesman Ira Mehlman said that even with legal status, many immigrants would continue to work in low-wage jobs, meaning their tax revenue wouldn't make much of a difference to the economy. Also, legalization would flood the labor market and drive down wages rather than increase them, he said.

Mehlman said those supporting amnesty know they have a difficult sell because of the state of the economy.

"They are trying to portray this as an economic shot in the arm," he said. "But I am not sure the American public is going to buy it."


Phil on Jan 08, 2010 at 15:23:44 said:

Of course the economy wouldn't go down. Millions of once illegal jobs would start showing up on the radar. The conditions might degrease, but the statistics wouldn't.

And it wouldn't take jobs away from American workers, because they would then become the American workers.


Brittanicus on Jan 08, 2010 at 15:13:10 said:

This very interesting letter came to me, through my Email and I cannot vouch for the author as I get hundreds of these type of correspondence each day. These people are very aware on my stand on illegal immigration and enlighten me all the time on the consequences to come. The national press are full of stories about the awful predicament these illegal immigrants are now subjected to? They must have realized this when they intentionally broke the sovereign laws of this nation? They know they are stealing jobs of millions of Americans who remain unemployed. Illegal labor have appropriated by illegal means Social Security numbers of Americans, their children and the military abroad They have crammed our schools with their children, our hospital emergency waiting rooms and are overflowing the dormitories and cells in the penal system. They have also been allowed legally or illegally to tap into the welfare system, that was there to serve low income or unemployed Americans. WE MUST INSIST OF OUR POLITICIANS TO PERMANENTLY IMPLEMENT E-VERIFY TO RESTRICT ILLEGAL WORKERS AND AUDITS. THE 287 (G) POLICE APPREHENSION LAW AND INCESSANTLY ENFORCE ICE RAIDS.
The man wrote:
I have been a bookkeeper and office manager for over 30 years in various construction fields. I have seen first hand how illegal aliens have been hired by greedy bosses. Here are some of the many ways they and the employers cheat the system: 1) They always claim up to 14 dependents on the W4's, thus they are not taxed on Federal and State Withholding. 2) When sick or injured on the job they got to the closest ER - they never file a Worker's Comp claim through the employer. 3) They work below the wage scale a comparable American would expect to be paid, thus "depressing" the wages. While the men work this way, the women and children they have a home are on welfare and Medicaid. The Employers: Many may have Federal, State, ADA and City contracts, all which are FUNDED by American Tax dollars and require Certified Payrolls to insure fair wages are paid on the job, yet they use illegal aliens to do these jobs and keep all the profits. Often the same employer will have whole families of illegals working in their businesses and if they try to hire any Americans the illegals will freeze them out or get them fired. The Employers become millionaires through this practice. They do not offer any benefits. They often have unsafe working environments. They also usually cheat like hell on their corporate income filings and live high-on-the-hog by expensing all their personal trips, hotels, airfares, homebuilding projects, cars and even put their kids on the payrolls while they go to college. The list of cheating is endless and I've seen it ALL!

Consider that just--IF--a comprehensive immigration reform passes, millions more will try to cross the border line before President Obama signs the act. If the truth was known we already have somewhere between 20 to 30 million illegal immigrants including families. Think how many more people will be added to the welfare rolls. All this is just a precursor for irreversible OVERPOPULATION. Call the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121 to be connected to your Senator and Congressman and use the voting power of THE PEOPLE. NUMBERSUSA AND JUDICIAL WATCH for more enlightening information about which lawmaker is a signer to AMNESTY and their immigration grades.

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