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Edie on Apr 10, 2009 at 05:34:12 said:

The first mistake was in educating them K-12. Sure it says they have the constitutional right to an education, but it didn't say they couldn't be charged a monetary amount for doing so. Remember they are not citizen children. Every inch we have given on illegal immigration has then turned into another inch and another inch until we have what we have now. When you let illegal immigrant children enter an American school that first day, without their illegal immigrant parent having paid one cent into our tax base, you lost your cause. Now they feel they should be entitled to the same priviledges that American children have. All of them. We have cultivated a sense of entitlement. It’s another welfare system gone amok. I know these children aren’t responsible for the actions of their parents, but neither are the American taxpayers. So why are we looked at to solve the problem that their parents created. These children may feel like they are U.S. citizens, but in reality they are not. Feelings are not worth one plug nickel when it comes to paying the bills. Our generosity has been used and abused for too long. It has to stop. Just like granting amnesty.

Ex_OC on Mar 27, 2009 at 19:01:07 said:

Sarah, I'm happy for you that your husband became legal, especially without us taxpayers having to bail him out. But, even YOU have to admit, he had to follow the rules to get legal. That's what this is all about: FOLLOW THE LAW. But to the others out there who cannot get legalization for one reason or another according to the guidelines of our law, they are SOL. It is a PRIVILEGE to be a US citizen, NOT A RIGHT; just as it is with any other country on earth (see Mexico's immigration policy, for example). Nobody has a right to immigrate. Your husband obviously qualified. But please do not confuse that with the general illegal public. The general illegal public will never qualify for LPR. They just have to suck that up and go home. And they can blame their parents for that. We U.S. citizens had no involvement with their parents' decision to sneak them into this country; therefore, we U.S. citizens shouldn't be burdened with their financial woes. It is a personal family matter best decided by their families. Leave the U.S. out of it.

MaryJ on Mar 27, 2009 at 16:43:21 said:

Dan writes: The Dream act is something most people can agree on. It will not cost any money, in fact it would increase revenues into the U.S. treasury because of the new tax base. Plus, I can live with this bill. They\'re children, they didn\'t do anything wrong. It\'s a win/win for everyone.
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You\'re wrong that it won\'t cost any money. It gives illegals access to \"free\" federal tuition grants and subsidies, subsidized student loans and the like. It takes these benefits away from American kids and gives them to illegals, and it expects AMERICANS to pay for the insult on top of that. In addition it will attract more and more illegals to come here in the future so that their children can also benefit from the gringo-paid \"freebies.\"

Ex_OC on Mar 27, 2009 at 14:42:38 said:

Sarah, I'm happy for you that your husband became legal, especially without us taxpayers having to bail him out. But, even YOU have to admit, he had to follow the rules to get legal. That's what this is all about: FOLLOW THE LAW. But to the others out there who cannot get legalization for one reason or another according to the guidelines of our law, they are SOL. It is a PRIVILEGE to be a US citizen, NOT A RIGHT; just as it is with any other country on earth (see Mexico's immigration policy, for example). Nobody has a right to immigrate. Your husband obviously qualified. But please do not confuse that with the general illegal public. The general illegal public will never qualify for LPR. They just have to suck that up and go home. And they can blame their parents for that. We U.S. citizens had no involvement with their parents' decision to sneak them into this country; therefore, we U.S. citizens shouldn't be burdened with their financial woes. It is a personal family matter best decided by their families. Leave the U.S. out of it.

Ex_OC on Mar 27, 2009 at 14:27:41 said:

Dan, you are correct that these students didn't do anything. THEIR ILLEGAL PARENTS DID. So why is a family matter now a national problem?? These so-called Dreamies need to take it up with their parents, NOT THE US TAXPAYER.

Sarah on Mar 27, 2009 at 14:27:01 said:

My husband was an illegal alien in the US. He was raised almost his entire life here and had no idea that he was here illegally.
As soon as he found out, he went through the process and is here legally, finally. The process was long and horrible and cost thousands of dollars. I believe that children that are raised here illegally should be able to be naturalized easier (even if they are over 18), but I do not think that they should have more opportunities than someone who came here legally or who was born here. Once they go through the quicky naturaliztion process, then allow them to have the same rights as every other person in the State, not out of state tutition or anything like that, treat them like the state residences that they are. That would be fair.
Not being here legally did not stop my husband from getting financial aid, going to school, getting a good paying job. sure, he did not know that he was not here legally, but it never stopped him. Not being here legally is not a block for people who really want to go to school just like having to get a visa or greencard does not stop people from coming into the country.

Ex_OC on Mar 27, 2009 at 14:26:09 said:

Dan, WHAT NEW TAX BASE?? These Dreamies are not allowed to work after they graduate, so what are you talking about??

Ex_OC on Mar 27, 2009 at 14:24:13 said:

Cedillo is a joke! The only thing funnier than Cedillo are the people who keep voting him in. If anyone can answer this question "What has Cedillo ever done for American Citizens of his district?" then you win the prize.

Dan on Mar 27, 2009 at 06:11:25 said:

The Dream act is something most people can agree on. It will not cost any money, in fact it would increase revenues into the U.S. treasury because of the new tax base. Plus, I can live with this bill. They're children, they didn't do anything wrong. It's a win/win for everyone.

nativessayno on Mar 26, 2009 at 11:42:29 said:

Brittanicus' facts and analysis seem objective and sound to me.

btw, La Raza, MALDEF members have made plenty of highly racist and anti-semitic published and public remarks to-date. They don't count as objectionable though, right?

NumbersUSA is a commendable group that support illegal immigrants NOT being here....simple point. You can attack that premise all you want, however the majority of US citizen's are actually for securing our borders.....

Passionately wanting the Dream Act over the continous objections of bona fide US citizens is not the same as acheiving it. Deeming it laudable does not merit its passage unless everyone wants this...and clearly they DO NOT.

Reproposing the same act over and over is unfair to whom? It lost several times, coincidence?

The Real Keanolo on Mar 25, 2009 at 19:07:40 said:

Brittanicus,
"WE are already paying more money than in the Iraq war to support illegal aliens."??? Really? Wow, were have you been getting your information from? NumbersUsa? You mean the the org founded by John Tanton? You mean John Tanton who received funding from individuals who promote the practice of Eugenics? That sound familiar, kind of like in Germany in the 1940's. If you only knew the facts Brittanicus, you would realize that you are extremely incorrect. How does the Iraq war cost less than the support and resources received by Illegal Aliens? I would really like to know, and please don't spew information out from individuals and orgs like John Tanton.

Brittanicus on Mar 25, 2009 at 16:01:36 said:

CAREFUL! THE PEOPLE are watching..?

Now that Sen. Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and 48 legislators sliced E-Verify from the Stimulus/Omnibus package, we must comprehend something sinister is potentially staring us in the face? Even in this period of a sinking economy and 10 million jobless Americans, the resurrection of AMNESTY is being quietly debated, in isolation from prying eyes. How can this bunch of tightly packed cronies, even think of reanimating this abhorrent issue, when people have lost their homes. When Americans cannot afford to run their car, let alone eat--other than perhaps--fast food?

House Democratic Caucus Vice Chairman Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.), I'm sure was deviously involved by crushing E-Verify, Including Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), the chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus’s and State Sen. Gil Cedillo . Even some Republicans Sen. Jon Kyl (Ariz.), who was among those who backed the failed proposal last Congress and Rep. Jeff Flake (Ariz.) and this liberal Sen.Edward Kennedy. There jobs are reasonably safe until these incumbents, start looking for positive voters?

If we allow another AMNESTY, the next tsunami of illegal foreigners will expect the same? WE are already paying more money than in the Iraq war to support illegal aliens. E-Verify will halt the Illegal alien workers as it would clash with any chance of forcing another AMNESTY through Washington. Do these fumbling Politicians think for one minute, we are not going to fight--tooth and nail?

Read!--not undisclosed rhetoric in the left-wing press, but the TRUTH at NUMBERSUSA, CAPSWEB, JUDICIALWATCH Call Washington now: 202-224-3121

The Real Keanolo on Mar 24, 2009 at 21:18:04 said:

Legalatina,
Nice name btw,
Your arguments are flawed and i'll start with your statement that these undocumented students should go back to their countries and apply for a student visa. Well for a student to be considered an international student, means that they must give an address of permanent residence outside of the U.S. How can these students apply as international students if they live here in the U.S., whether its legal or not.
Second, I would like to know if you have ever lived, not visited, in a country like Mexico, Philippines, or Nigeria? If not, then you cant talk about going back to a country and living there if you have never had that experience.
Thirdly,
The immigration system itself is flawed and unfair. By flawed and unfair, I mean that an individual that comes from the Philippines goes through a much more extensive and exhausting process for receiving a visa than an individual that comes from England. Why is that?
Also, if these students were to snubb their home state, they would actually be snubbing the U.S. because their nation is the U.S. and you cant take that feeling or sense of belonging from them.

The Real Keanolo on Mar 24, 2009 at 20:53:49 said:

Jimi,
Interesting that the Supreme Court finds this bill unconstitutional even though it hasn't been passed, no? Also, the Supreme Court held that undocumented children had the right to the opportunity to an education in the U.S. school systems back in 1982. The problem is that in their home countries, whether its Mexico, Vietnam, Phillipines, Poland, or an African country is that there aren't enough opportunities for these students in their respective countries. Not to mention that the idea of leaving the country from which you grew up in to go to a country that you do not know or have a connection to besides through birth is a ridiculous idea. Just think about it, if your great grandparents came to the U.S. and then they had you grandparents who grew up here, why would you send them back to the country from which your great grandparents came from? Home is the U.S. whether you like it or not, and no one can take that away from these students.

legalatina on Mar 24, 2009 at 15:23:14 said:

Opposition is not just from Republicans, Luis. Americans, especially parents who are forking over big bucks to pay for their child's education...don't think it's really fair that illegal aliens get admitted in the first place or that illegal aliens (having already availed themselves of free public K-12 education in the U.S. amongst other benefits)should receive tuition discounts that aren't available to U.S citizens from the other 49 states. Secondly, Luis, illegal alien students should be held to the same standards as all other international students...they need to go home and get a student visa and meet all other admission requirements....there should be no double standard in admissions that places illegal alien students in a better position than international students who have played by the rules and complied with all legal and administrative admission requirements. Illegal alien students have every right and opportunity to pursue their college studies in their home countries (including application for scholarships, grants, loans, etc.). Did you know Luis, that Mexican nationals inlcuding those illegal alien students from Mexico can go to school for FREE at the National Autonomous University system of Mexico? So why aren't they making application there...it's FREE and it's their right. Instead illegal alien students want to portray themselves as victims...they are snubbing their noses at the opportunities they have in their home nations to go to school and snubbing their noses at our laws. Shameful

Jimi on Mar 24, 2009 at 08:36:12 said:

"One Bill Gil" is at it again, for what, the 8th time? The Cal. Supreme court has ruled this flawed legislation is un-constitutional as it destroys equal access as an out of stater must pay full fare. If these illegal alien students can qualify for U of C, then they can also qualify to attend college in their home countries, legally. Then they can begin to fix the places from which they left. Strip mining countries of their college talent is not going to help these countries, it will stagnate their growth. Go home, get your degree and get to work!

Luis on Mar 24, 2009 at 03:11:55 said:

Gary,

If Republicans would once and for all just realize that the DREAM Act is essentially beneficial for everyone--not just "illegal" aliens, then maybe Sen. Cedillo will be able to re-focus his energy on OTHER important issues. But because (Gov.) Arnie and his republican buddies keep on vetoing it, then it will continue to be brought up.

If it was important, dont you think Cedillo and other folks would have dropped it already?

Gary Thornton on Mar 24, 2009 at 00:09:54 said:

What would it be like if Gil Cedillo spent as much time fighting for a better life for American citizens and legal immigrants as he does for illegal immigrants?

The Real Keanolo on Mar 23, 2009 at 21:12:52 said:

1st of all:Gente Mexicano? It is actually Gente Mexicana not Mexicano. 2nd: This bill would give undocumented students the opportunity to apply for temporary citizenship. Not Mexicano's but all undocumented students. If you didn't know before, there are other immigrants that come from other countries too, like the Phillipines, China, and Poland. The Governator might veto it but just wait until the Congressional version of the DREAM Act gets passed.

June on Mar 23, 2009 at 15:19:51 said:

Will someone please tell me what "an otherwise qualified illegal alien is?" Maybe this is some of the change we can expect. We know the new administation can't wait to get around to amnesty. They plan to pit American workers against illegal alien labor, who can work for much less. This cabinet could not have been better chosen for the illegal community and their supporters if Calderon himself had chosen them.

Keanolo Keanolo on Mar 23, 2009 at 13:25:07 said:

That's right Gil, steal from Americans and give it all to your Gente Mexicano. Arnold will veto your trash, racista bill again just like last year.