Over 100 Democrats Push Obama on Immigration Reform
New America Media, News Report, Marcelo Ballvé, Posted: Oct 27, 2009
Is immigration reform back?
Hoping to jump-start a major legislative drive on immigration reform in the U.S. Congress, more than 100 pro-reform House Democrats signed a letter reminding President Obama of his administration's commitment to overhaul immigration.
The letter was clearly meant to nudge the White House toward engaging an issue it has allowed to languish.
The letter expressed House Democrats' “commitment to fix our broken immigration system” and cited “strong support for moving forward on fair and humane comprehensive immigration reform this year." One of the signees, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, an Illinois Democrat, is gearing up to introduce a major immigration reform bill as early as next month.
Immigration advocates and their allies in Congress believe there is a window for immigration reform to pass early next year, before midterm elections complicate the political calculus.
"The room for doing this is very tight," Gutierrez said earlier this month on the Spanish-language Univision network's political talk program, "Al Punto." "We have to do it in February or early March of next year."
The renewed buzz around reform has raised expectations in the Hispanic community, but since such hopes have been dashed before, there is still an undercurrent of skepticism.
Despite the stirrings in the lower House of Representatives, it's still unclear how much traction an immigration fix has in the Congress overall. Gutierrez's bill and the letter to President Obama are only opening plays in a long campaign to push immigration to the center of Washington, D.C.'s always crowded agenda.
The recent moves might help Democrats show Hispanic voters that the party is aware of widespread frustration with the current immigration system. But there's still no clear commitment to a timetable for an overhaul, or certainty that it will come.
"The timeline for immigration remains uncertain," acknowledged Rep. Joseph Crowley, the New York Democrat who organized the letter on immigration sent to President Obama and signed by 111 House Democrats.
Time, he went on to admit, is short. Because of the November 2010 elections, "the further we go into next year ... the more difficult I think it will be to address this issue" as risk-averse incumbents avoid controversial issues like immigration.
Rep. Crowley spoke during a teleconference call with reporters organized last week by the National Immigration Forum, a nonpartisan pro-immigration advocacy group in Washington, D.C., and New America Media.
Immigrant advocates know that once health care reform is settled, immigration will compete with other crucial issues, including banking regulation and the interrelated climate and energy questions, for political attention, said Ali Noorani, National Immigration Forum's executive director.
That is why pro-immigration groups like his are organizing letter-writing, fax, and email campaigns, to create a groundswell that will inject urgency into their demands that Congress act on immigration.
As always, immigration reform pivots on one sensitive question: What happens with the nation's 12 million undocumented immigrants?
While most pro-reform advocates envision a path to some sort of legal status for undocumented immigrants already in the country, opponents call such plans an amnesty that would encourage still more illegal immigration.
The cries of "amnesty" sunk Congress's last serious attempt to reform immigration in 2007, and this time pro-reform advocates want to ensure that they are not drowned out by anti-immigration voices.
"We must keep up the drumbeat," wrote Tamar Jacoby, head of ImmigrationWorks USA, a pro-immigration business group, in an e-mail to supporters. "Many members of Congress still don't get it. Many are still leery of immigration. And when they go home to their districts, they still hear only the voices shouting 'No.' We have to help change that."
Local groups advocating for immigrants’ rights are striving to be proactive.
"We need to take control of this [reform] timeline," said Chung-Wa Hong, New York Immigrant Coalition executive director.
Hong, who participated in the teleconference last week with Rep. Crowley, said immigrant voters "are angry – they voted for change and they're seeing more of the same." She said that only a surge of voter demands for an immigration overhaul would galvanize Congress into action, and any expectations of a Washington, D.C.-initiated fix were politically naive.
Part of the problem for immigration reform is partisanship. Rep. Crowley could cite only one possible Republican backer by name: Arizona Rep. Jeff Flake.
When pushed to outline a reform plan that House Democrats could get behind, Rep. Crowley emphasized tighter border security and the targeting of "bad actor" employees who exploit undocumented immigrants. These get-tough measures are clearly designed to attract Republican support for a reform bill that would presumably create a path to legalization for those without papers.
President Reagan tried a similar “carrot and stick” plan in 1986, granting legal status to millions of undocumented along with cracking down on employers who hired unauthorized workers.
But there is little indication that present-day Republicans have an appetite for following Reagan's lead. Michael Steele, president of the Republican National Committee, has long blamed the 1986 immigration law for today's illegal immigration crisis.
More recently, in his own appearance on Univision's Al Punto program, Steele said he was sick of politicians exploiting the "hot politics" of immigration. He also advocated for immigrants to assimilate by working hard, eating apple pie and learning the Star Spangled Banner.
But he gave no specifics on what sort of an immigration reform plan Republicans might be willing to hammer out with Democrats.
Noorani, of the National Immigration Forum, believes immigration reform has a "very, very good opportunity to move early in 2010."
But until a substantive debate on immigration begins to build in Congress and nationwide, it will remain unclear whether the deadlock on immigration really is loosening.
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Unknown on Nov 02, 2009 at 14:44:46 said:
There is no doubt that illegals need to be looked at. Why loose tax? But then think of person like us. Ligally in US, following all norms and still wait for 6 to 10 years before treated at par. My son will be going to college next year, I am in high skilled category and thankfully still in job due to my skill area but when my son looks at colleges, there is a distinct differentiation in fees, scholarship and everything even if he scores whatever 30+ in ACT.
So if something needs to be done for illegals, do something for ligals first.
Roland Olbricht on Nov 02, 2009 at 07:32:43 said:
DElaware Bob..who told you there are 20 million illegals...there are 300 million dude..you forgot to count your own ancestors, who just sailed over from western europe...
Morglay on Oct 30, 2009 at 07:59:38 said:
nativessayno - I would go further and ask those who claim that people from modern day Mexico are really Native American heroes why it was that their ancestors played such a prominent role in the destruction and extinction of the Coahuiltecan and Karankawa. Both Native American Nations inhabited and thrived in south Texas until the rulers of what is now Mexico got involved with them. It is a sad irony that the descendants of those same rulers now claim those they made extinct as brothers and thus claim entitlement to their historic lands. I guess it is easy now that the Coahuiltecan and Karankawa are no longer around to complain.
Delaware Bob on Oct 30, 2009 at 07:59:08 said:
We have 30 million Americans out of work and these stupid democraps want to give amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens. I don't know who is going to completely destroy this Country first. The illegal aliens or the democraps.
Illegal aliens have made America the dumping ground for all their illegal alien children, then we have to school them and give them free medical care.
I for one, am sick and tired of these illegal aliens snubbing their nose at our immigration laws and the many other laws of this Country. If our Federal Government can not ENFORCE our immigration laws, and get these illegal aliens out of this Country, then let the States do it! One way or another, an end has to come to this illegal immigration, and not with AMNESTY! Amnesty will only encourage more illegal aliens to invade our Country and reward those who broke our laws and raped the American taxpayer in many ways...depressing our wages, taking our jobs, overwhelming our schools with their ILLEGAL ALIEN children, driving without a license or car insurance, all the crime from stolen identities to rape, drugs and everything else.
It's time for ZERO TOLERENCE with these illegal aliens. It's time for them get out of this Country and back in their own Country where they belong. When we get rid of the illegal aliens, we will get rid of all the problems that go with them. THAT IS A FACT!
Bobby on Oct 30, 2009 at 00:53:40 said:
nativessayno, being interested in balanced historical truth, all I can say is,"Thanks for clearing up again, the B.S. these reconquista types and Mexican nationalists in general always spout out--while living in this nation. They call whites hypocrits?? One thing I have noticed about most American Indians I have met and gone to school with,that is totally different from most Mexicans is this, "Despite the enormous losses they suffered, the American Indian has a quite dignity that has always deeply impressed me. None of the loud mouthed bragging about crap like "the border crossed us, we didn't cross the border", go back to Europe, kill the gringo,etc.
On the other hand, no group has tried to right the wrongs their ancestors may have committed towards the American Indians, like white Americans. Casino's, land given back, etc. What has Mexico ever done for the citizens they have wronged for the last one-hundred and fifty years. NOTHING, yet groups like La Raza, and others are never bothered by this. They prefer to create mayhem and trouble in this country by demanding special priviledges for Mexicans, etc. Third point, I'm sick of so many Mexicans pretending to be American Indians.
nativessayno on Oct 29, 2009 at 13:58:28 said:
"All white people are illegal too"....let's just make up reasons and insult citizens to do as we please to get what we want out of them! The reconquista argument is a newly-minted sham and highly disrepectful of our valued and varied American heritages.
I am from this continent with direct lineage going back to the last Ice Age. Having said this- I really DO nOT like when American Indians are used as a gimmicks to support Open Borders.
There are far more nuances to your claims of los indios and Mexicans being oppressed in the US. Your demands to hand back all the goodies rhetoric...regarding a treaty from 158 years ago gets dusted off to make a claim in the 21st Century about a possible great-great-great-great ancestor's losses. By your argument we should surrender the Louisiana Purchase back to France and Alaska back to Russia. A more gimmicky argument could not be concocted.
Did you forget the fact that all of your Don Patrones in the Americas are "white"? Why is no argument made for them to go back "home"? You make it loud and often enough here...why not make the claim in your own "homelands"? Could it be that you actually are far more oppressed there but have done NOTHING to change that there? Why no big reconquista plans back home if you are really so serious?
Also, just in case you truly are 100% ignorant of US history; the American Indians (always being dredged up as a "talking point" for Open Borders- which I personally resent), were not exclusively bosom pals of Mexican nationals through the ages. The honorable and great leader of the last Indian Wars, Geronimo was a sworn enemy of Mexicans. His first wife and family were murdered in a raid by Mexicans.
So trotting us outlike some prized non-real magnet for illegal immigration via highly subjective revisionist history is really demeaning, inaccurate and insulting. I speak for myself- but I DO NOT want illegal immigrants of any group here AT ALL. Got it?
Morglay on Oct 29, 2009 at 09:37:54 said:
SICCI & Hector Barrera - The joke is on you! In Mexico, 88% of Mexican Citizens have Immigrant Ancestors who came from outside of this continent. The vast majority of those ancestors came from Europe. Those same "White People" you are so quick to denigrate. The same is true for much of the rest of Latin America. So are you sure you want to make this about race?
Johm on Oct 28, 2009 at 16:24:40 said:
This nation is full of hate ...
SICCI on Oct 28, 2009 at 16:01:51 said:
I don't blame all White AMERICANS...However, it seems evident that whites would love to ship us (Hispanics,Indians, and Africans) back to our origins. Yeah, How about I do that...I come from an island (Puerto Rico) where immigrants came and killed my ancestors (Taino Indians). In fact, my island was the location they also sent the blacks for slavery! Wow! CERTAIN PREJUDICE WHITES should be so proud!
SICCI on Oct 28, 2009 at 15:53:44 said:
Amen! to your comment Hector B.
White Americans forget, it was our ancestors (Mexicans and Indians) who slaughtered so they (white) could have a better future! Whites want to blame the Spanish for their troubles. We work for cheap and whites want to throw us out of the country?? Why doesn't the whites just lower their expectation of pay? What? Whites need to make 30.00 bucks an hour? Then get angry if we work for 12?? Yet, whites love the sales, cheap labor and quality work! Its disgusting how hypocritical White Americans sound.
We aren't telling white Americans to leave..We (Hispanics) SHOULD HAVE OUR RIGHTFUL PLACE BACK!
Freedom1 on Oct 28, 2009 at 14:00:55 said:
All white people are illegal too.
They came to America by FORCE and displaced the Native American Indians.
How about that?
You came with modern weapons; the natives could not fight against that.
How about all white people living in America (not just the U.S.A) need to leave and re-apply to enter?
Also, you'll be banned from America for 10 years for being illegal in America for 1 year or more.
Hispanics like it or not will be the majority in the USA by 2050.
Start getting used to it.
How hypocrite white people are, you like cheap goods and services but you don't like the people manufacturing/serving them.
The baby boomers are set to start retiring very soon. Who do you think will be taking care of your dad or mom?
Your grad school son/daughter?
I don't think so.
Hispanics at least take care of their elders; white people abandon them.
Freedom1.
Estrella on Oct 28, 2009 at 09:40:55 said:
USA Economic Reform --- you sound like one of those crazy manifesto writers who later go on to commit domestic terrorism.
US-Economic Reform on Oct 28, 2009 at 08:45:08 said:
(1) If the (9/11/2001)-investigation would reveal the bitter-truth that "Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, Condoleza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, etc.", had conspired(with Computerized automated unmanned missile-aeroplanes, with computerized synthesized voices/videos/movies), "to knock down NYC-Towers/Pentagon(to kill 3000+ USA-Citizens), just to go to an expensive-war,(to steal the USA-Public-Money, from the USA-Military-Contracts), in the name of fake USA-Patriotship",
then "Will the USA, deport out, or, exile-out, those few, mean/low-clss political-evils, or, USA-Traitor-Politicians(Dick Cheney, Collin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleza Rice, etc.), from the USA-borders,(as they have killed 3000+ USA-Citizens on the tragic 09-11-2001, just to steal the huge USA-Public-Money, in a covered-way?)".
(2) What is the meaning of the word "Illegal"?
Are those mass-killer-politician-evils(hidden/covered USA-Traitors), "Dick Cheney, Collin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Condolez Rice, etc.", not the "Illegal-persons in the USA(if you are an USA-Patriot)"?
(3) If you are an USA-Patriot:
then "Will you not work to stop the Lottery-Visa-Green-Card System(which is importing every year directly 100,000+ liabilities of foreign-nationals, with the ready made USA-Green-Cards/Work-Permits/Driving-Licenses/Education-Benefits/Hospital-Benefits/Senior Citizenship-Benefits/etc., for which a single cent Tax/Labour/Effort was not contributed, even, by any of these foreign-born-liabilities, in the USA, or, to take out the 100,000+ USA-jobs, from the Tax-Paying/Struggling USA-born-Workers, inside the USA)? Is this "A Discrimination(or, Crime/Sin/Injustices) on the Tax-Paying/Struggling USA-born-Workers(by carrying the extravagant/criminal/sinful/expensive/liability of USA-Lottery-Visa-Green-Cards, just to take out the Jobs/Benefits of the USA-born-Workers/Residents, even inside the USA)?
Would you kindly be active & voice-full, to stop these, ongoing, "USA-based Discrimination/Crimes/Sins/Injustices(by continuing the USA-Lottery-Visa-Green-Card-System,which takes the Jobs/Benefits of the Local Struggling USA-born Workers/Residents inside the USA), over the USA-born Residents/Workers?
(4) USA-Green-Card-System (The USA-Green-Cards/Residencies/Permanent-Work-Permits/etc.), would, legally be justified,(as per the USA-National-Constitutional-Truths/Core-Values), only, to those foreign-born-peoples(who would sacrifice for USA-System, for the growth of the USA-National-Economical-Revenues, for more than the seven years, with paying the USA-National-Taxes-Bills-Fines-Fees-Rents-Charges-Utility-Bills-etc.), who would earn the USA-Credits(at least through the last seven or, more years), "with the consistent & continuous obedience of USA-Constitutional-Core-Values-Truths, during their whole time-period of stay in the USA".
(5) The USA-Green-Cards/Work-Permits/Residency-Permits/etc., would not be "Legal", or, "Would be Strictly Illegal", to those persons(who are the USA-Traitors, or, who want to Steal & Rob the USA-Public-Money/Fortunes, or, who wants to live in the USA, to steal & rob the USA-Public-Money/Fortune, without building/adding it)".
(6) If we are the USA-Patriots, then we would must understand & realize, clearly & honestly, that "The 12 or, 13 millions of the Lower-Waged, or, the Self-Killing peoples,(as born in the same planet), are killing themselves, seriously, over more than seven years/more, just to build & add the USA-National-Public-Money/Fortunes/Revenues(for the Good of all the USA-born-Residents/Workers, by keeping the USA-National-Production-Units/Factories/Industries/Businesses, within the USA, to keep the Jobs/Revenues/Growths for the USA-born-Residents/Workers, within the USA, without being vanished-away into the USA-rival-Countries, at outside of the USA-borders)"!!!!!!
(7) We, the honest & responsible, USA-Patriots, would must, now, work hard to arrange "An USA-National-Patriotic Amnesty Program, strictly, only, for the millions of the already servicing, USA-Workers(who are, originally, foreign-born but,'have continuously & consistently worked/paid-USA-Taxes-Rents-Bills-Fines-Fees-Charges-Telephone-Bills/Grocery-Bills/etc., at least for the Last Seven Years, with no criminal records, and, eager/trying to learn & use the English Language; and are a serious & honest responsible part of the USA-National-Patriotic-Social-Economical-System, at least, for the last seven years, by the several records & proofs, with the commitments & proofs of confidences), who were/are being required to keep the USA-National-Patriotic-Production-Units/Factories/Industries/etc., into the USA-National-Areas, (to create/maintain the USA-Jobs-Revenues-Growths, for the USA-born-Residents/Workers, within the USA, safely & consistently, without a future/one-more USA-Economical-Recession/Collapse, in the USA)". This would be real & honest Serious USA-Patriotism, waiting long time, to be activated by the USA-National-Patriots(for the good of the USA-born-Residents/Workers).
(8) This Newly Designed Amnesty Program(is not for anyone, who did not work and pay USA-Taxes-Rents-Bills-Fines-Fees-Charges-etc., at least, for the last seven years.[So, the Newly Incumbents, would be separated, easily, for exclusions].
This Amnesty-program would be purely of restricted type(and would not be followed by Another Amnesty, within the next 20-years of time).
This Newly Designed USA-Amnesty Program, would must provide the USA-Permanent-Residencies(to the Qualified portions of the 13-millions of the foreign-born USA-Revenue-Adding-Workers, in the USA, through the long 20-years, being counted, after the Registration-Date),and, (these 12-millions USA-Patriotic-Registered-Workers, would must have to pay, an USA-Legalization-Fees, @$4,000 per head per year, for the next 20-years, without "A Fail)". This Featues, would confirm, that "This Newly Designed USA-Amnesty-Program, would generate/add/build/grow the USA-National-Revenues/Funds(to be spent for the USA-born-Residents/Workers, effectively)".
This Newly Designed USA-National-Patriotic-Amnesty-Program(which is just opposite in nature, to the 1986-USA-Amnesty-Program), would keep "The USA-Investments/Revenues and the USA-Workers' Savings/Money/Fortunes, within the USA,(to Build & Add the USA-National-Patriotic-Economical-Revenues-Growths-Developments-Constructions-Upgradings, only for the USA-born-Residents/Workers)".
(9) The New , or, Well-Designed Scientific Features, would technically & scientifically, would reduce,(in an Humane & Successful Way), the "Further or, uncontrolled Illegal-Immigration,(into the USA), just after the New USA-Amnesty-Program, would be Triggered (with a New & Strict Cut-Off-Date-Option, in-built into it)".
(10) This Newly Designed USA-Amnesty-Program(based on "the USA-Earned-Credit-System and the USA-Humane-Policy-System"), would be just opposite, in nature & effectiveness, to the "1986-USA-Amnesty-Program".
(11) This Newly Designed USA-Amnesty-Program would be "The USA-National-Patriotic and Legal", w.r.t., "The USA-National-Constitutional-Policy/Truth/Core-Values(written for the good of the USA-born-Residents/Workers)". It would be just, honestly & scientifically, "Legal & Humane" or, "USA-National-Patriotic", in the real & honest analysis.
We need, now to work on it, (for the betterment of the USA-born-Residents/Workers).
Thanks, regards!
"The USA-Patriotic Honest & Responsible Citizens(to upgrade & reinforce the USA-Multinational System in the World)".
MaryJ on Oct 28, 2009 at 07:13:57 said:
Guess why they do not have any border fence with Canada and have very friendly relations.
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Umm, because Canada is a First World nation that provides a decent lifestyle and income for its people? Because Canada, unlike Mexico, is not a Third World toilet controlled by vicious drug cartels? You Mexicans are unbelievable! You create a toilet of a country and then whine because no one wants you to bring your toilet of a culture into our country and turn it into what yours is like. Sorry if that's too harsh for you to swallow, but it's the truth. The reason we don't want you here is not because of your skin color. The reason we don't want you here is because your culture sucks and the country you "created" with it is a toilet. And we don't want to live in a toilet. Go home, fix your own country, quite whining that "white Americans" are the source of all your problems. Are you admitting that Mexicans are so inferior they can't hope to create a country as good as Canada or the US? It sounds like it to me.
Alexander Mackenzie on Oct 28, 2009 at 00:05:41 said:
To Connie, and the Anti-American illegal "here to stay". Connie, what nation has ever let 13.5 million people walk in demand to stay and by the way tell the indigenous population to learn "their" tongue. I know on none. Mr "here to stay", you are without any respect to the place you snuck into. You seem to despise the people you moved in with, hate the government, (umm, that I do understand, but not for any of your reasons), feel the Taliban protection (at the time 8 years ago) of the terrorist training camps and Osama, in spite of his organizations murder of 3ooo citizens and legal aliens deserved no response. By the way, we have not invaded Pakistan ever. The invasion was Afganistan. Now, I see you want no advice on how whatever nation you did legally reside in is run, and that is fine with me, as I am sure you must want to go back home as much as I want you too, based mostly on your comments, a lack of redeeming qualities I would expect to be in any person that wished to stay. How strange that today, the cry of racist, is the battle cry of the actual racists. If reason cannot win ones side of the argument, well, call them and hope no one notices that ones argument has no legs. Until, and before any "path to citizenship" is created, our nations border, MUST be controlled. No drugs, or people unless in a legal way, vetted, and needed to be allowed in. When really controlled, those that were tacitly invited in by corrupt government and business interests should be humanly looked at and provisions made for them to stay, criminals and gang members excepted of course.
Legally Right on Oct 27, 2009 at 23:38:15 said:
I think Obama is a winner whatever happens to the legislation.
If he loses, he will be able to show how racist USA is. These illegal immigrants are treated like slaves. White America never changes.
All those who are complaining about immigration (legal or illegal) are racist. If these illegal immigrants were white, they would have embraced them with open arms. If they called them illegal in first place.
Guess why they do not have any border fence with Canada and have very friendly relations.
ALIEN TO STAY on Oct 27, 2009 at 17:35:32 said:
Its very sad to see the American people being two sided. You do not want illegal immigrants stay in your country, you forget you are also illegal immigrants in other countries, like Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistin and in African countries. You invade these countries, kill,rape and displace families, for your own desires. Get out of these countries and we shall go back home, we do not need you to show us how to run our countries. Get out and we will go home.
Larry on Oct 27, 2009 at 17:35:03 said:
HELP STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.......MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD: www.numbersusa.com/content/
Brittanicus on Oct 27, 2009 at 16:51:12 said:
Two steps forward, one step backwards? That is the situation illegal immigration
has put us in. Since forced back into the spotlight Patriots and exceptional American workers can claim another small victory. The Senate had to finally give in to public pressure and pass a three year extension for E-Verify. A small but significant step in slowly, but surely, removing illegal foreign workers out of the job market. But the ensuing battle is far from over. Let us question the open border meddlers. Let's just say for one minute - and this is a big IF knowing the frustrated and angry mood of 15 million out-of-work Americans - a comprehensive path to citizenship was to pass, how is our all-powerful government expected to halt the inflow of millions upon millions more illegal aliens at the border?
Without any doubt there will be a tangible effect of word-of-mouth, spreading like searing magma across the border, the Pacific, Atlantic and other oceans of the world. Will the fraternity of corrupted legislators bring home our troops from different nations of the world and place commands along the intentionally poorly constructed border? Or perhaps they will direct the National Guard once again, to picket that national demarcation line the between the two countries? My thoughts are that a torrent, materializing into a flood and then a maelstrom of desperate human beings will start a perilous charge to take advantage of health care, education and whatever California - and other sanctuary states - have declared as "free".
The border fence is nothing like originally planned. Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) was the author of the border fence legislation. The original fence can be seen in San Diego, California. It is not what we view currently stretching from California to Texas. Hunter's construction is two layers, with a "no mans land" in between for Border Patrol use. Border Patrol vehicles have the capability of speeding along to any illegal incursion on a two lane track. Instead of illegal entrants only having to scale one steel barrier, they would likely be caught in between the fences and unable to negotiate the second fence before being apprehended.
Illegal access to America was never ended, because our politicians corporate employers never intended to keep the majority of discount labor out of the country. Think about it, if illegal immigration laws were meant to be enforced, the courts would have made crossing the border a felony. Currently it's a misdemeanor. You would think that the US Chamber of Commerce would be very potent in fighting the government on behalf of the 15 million jobless workers. The Chamber is busy though filing lawsuits to compromise E-Verify on behalf of Federal contractors
and subcontractors. In court they are stating that the government lacks the authority to make the voluntary program mandatory.
The US Chamber of Commerce, The ACLU, and Council on Foreign Relations real agenda is to completely eradicate any border, port or airline enforcement and to expedite the easy access of impoverished cheap labor. Randel Johnson, chamber senior vice president for labor, immigration and employee benefits stated, "Our main focus right now is to try and provide that the regulation, that does not require the re-verification of current employees."
Any prudent person must realize that it's not just Federal contractors and subcontractors that have unknown numbers of illegal workers holding American jobs. Anywhere in the job market illegal immigrants are likely shielded by thousands of employers, given refuge by churches and hidden in unions halls. We should concentrate on the numbers of illegal foreign laborers who have been informed upon by the labor force of companies.
In Los Angeles 1800 individuals were found working at a clothing factory on fraudulent documentation. In Postville, Iowa a lightning ICE raid detained 300 unauthorized workers. Today most of those jobs have been filled by legal workers of all colors, but the usual suspects have complained that these are jobs Americans won’t do. Take these numbers and calculate them by how many hundreds of thousands of businesses there are in the United States. If just those two large companies are anything to go by, the actual numbers of illegal labor working without The People's Permission is absolutely staggering.
My cousin’s grandfather picked fruit in Oregon. American kids mowed lawns, flipped burgers, and babysat small children. The unskilled cleaned toilets and made beds in motels and hotels. Now you’re lucky if you can find a US citizen in the entertainment industry, janitorial jobs or hundreds of other low wage categories. All these jobs were slowly filled by exploited illegal labor, because they can be intimidated by employers who spin the word "El Migra". Always and forever, its about the profit and large bonuses these executives are receiving using foreign nationals instead of US workers.
The majority of these outlaw companies do not pay for health insurance. As I have repeated - over and over again - they have jettisoned their injured charges - roofers, construction and manual laborers - on the steps of the county emergency hospital. These companies are very knowledgeable of Federal law, because they and industrial organizations have subjected our Civil Servants in Washington to unceasing lobbying. The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (42 U.S.C. § 1395dd, EMTALA) is a United States Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act. It requires hospitals and ambulance services to provide care to anyone needing emergency health care treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. No language of the act relates to reimbursement provisions. As a result of the legislation, any patients needing emergency treatment can only be discharged under their own informed consent or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer care.
Nefarious companies are fully aware of this law that sick people who are low income can enter any emergency room and receive medical treatment. The companies are not held accountable for the hospital bills. They rid themselves of the responsibility, putting it on the US taxpayer or the hospital to swallow the medical bill. Citizens and legal residents are forced to pay for this in their taxes. If however they fall into the same quicksand, not paying for medical bills for themselves and family, they are literary hunted down by skip tracers and obnoxious debt collectors. Illegal foreign workers are exempt because they have no tracking ID papers, whereas the rest of the legal population are continually harassed by arrogant debt collectors. Many become victims of bankruptcy.
Unlike industrialized nations who have for years benefited from Universal Health Care, this country has badly failed the American people and instead favored money grabbing private insurance. It seems inconceivable that thousands of Americans die each year, because they cannot afford the premiums for their families.
Illegal workers are receiving free treatments, expensive dialysis and major surgery compliments of US taxpayers. GOOGLE - illegal immigrants - hospitals - health care for raw intelligence. As an example, in April, University Medical Center, Nevada has been spending about $2 million per month providing emergency dialysis services to 80 illegal immigrants. We should vividly remember that this is the home of Senator Harry Reid, whose powerful influence in Washington has intentionally used his power to weaken or trample on any immigration enforcement. He and his Democratic force has been instrumental earlier in trying to derail E-Verify. One should also consider that he has a very large population of illegal foreign nationals settled in Nevada. Reid hopes to be re-elected next year. Legal residents and citizens of Nevada should watch for any kind of irregularities in the voting booth, specifically absentee ballots.
California is the stark reality of complete flagrant disregard of federal law. It has instituted its own policy of a Sanctuary State. Over the years it has amassed an uncounted population of impoverished, poorly educated illegal labor and their families. It has become a very costly situation for Angelenos and Californians as a whole. With a Liberal-Socialist-Marxist Assembly in Sacramento, the tax and spend hierarchy have driven the State into near bankruptcy. Estimates for Los Angeles alone put the number of illegal immigrants at 3 million people. According to U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services (CIS), an estimated 2,209,000 illegal immigrants resided in California in 2000, up from 1,476,000 in 1990. Since then the numbers have accelerated to unbelievable numbers, which is owing to our intentionally limited border security.
As usual the opponents of any kind of restriction on illegal immigration, is playing the race card. It's a forgone conclusion that the benefactors of promoting a mass invasion of our shores - such as religious groups, unions, ACLU, radical ethnic caucuses and even our own US Chamber of Commerce - will mouth epithets to any person group or other entity if it doesn't benefit big businesses who advocate a continuous force of illegal cheap labor. They are all really frustrated now because their objection to E-Verify was thrown out of a Maryland Federal court. All federal contractors and subcontractors must adhere to the law as of September 30. They have conspired against the American worker and people for too long and now we are fighting back against corrupt politicians and other elected officials nationwide,
Rep. Joe Wilson was actually telling the truth at the time he shouted "You Lie!" and now Democrats have placed restrictive residency language in the Health care reform package as a reluctant afterthought brought by public demand. This was nothing to do about bigotry or racism, but the American workers and family survival. The Business communities who hire illegals generally pay below the national minimum wage and not for other benefits. This forces the employees to rely on the taxpayer to carry the financial load. The US labor force should not have to be in competition, with people from other countries. Businesses have already offshored American jobs because it's cheaper. Every illegal foreign national and family member should be denied government run health care, jobs and all the billions of taxpayer dollars secretly allocated to pay for their support. Twenty million plus illegal people compromised themselves when they entered a sovereign nation without permission. The invasion of illegal immigrants into the state of California has much to do with its monolithic budget meltdown.
County Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich in 2004 released new statistics from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Social Services showing that Illegal Aliens collected more than $37 million in welfare and food stamp allocations in November 2008. This was up $3 million from September 2007. Illegal’s collected more than $20 million in welfare assistance in November and more than $16 million in food stamp allocations, for a projected annual cost of $444 million.
That is not the entire picture of the taxpayer burden. When you add in the cost of free Emergency Room services, free Public School education as well as public safety and free housing the annual cost is $3,000,000,000 a year and rising! In California they get a free lunch on the taxpayers in Los Angeles county compliments of Sacramento. That's up from 2007 where welfare had increased $2 million over the previous two months. Antonovich also said that 25% of all welfare and food stamp benefits go directly to children of illegal aliens and that the projected annual cost in welfare and food stamps for illegal aliens would be $444 million.
That is far from the entire picture of the taxpayer burden. That’s only the cost to taxpayers in Los Angeles County, how much is it costing the rest of the United States taxpayers? Is the cost $20 Billion, $30 Billion or $50 Billion annually? No one really knows, because most States refuse to ask the important question; “Are you a Legal Immigrant?”
My other concern, along with thousands of other citizens and legal residents, is how many illegal aliens are voting in elections when no governmental ID is needed to prove immigration status.
Simply recognize that California is a Sanctuary State. By removing millions of illegal immigrants and their families it would assist in balancing the budget. E-Verification being continuously modified from its original success rate of 99.6 is now constantly on the minds of company executives. With a three year extension those Democrats had no choice, but to irritably approve because of public outrage.
It proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that public exposure and anger with their politicians has had exemplary effects of how they vote. The three year extension was a small victory celebration, but be assured we have to keep a sharp eye on each and every one of them. We cannot let go for one minute
Since 2005 there have been announcements of the closure of many emergency rooms including Elastar Community Hospital in East Los Angeles. Tracey Veal, a spokeswoman for the Northridge hospital, said, It is estimated that the hospital spent $13 million on so-called charity care in the fiscal year that ended on June 30. Four other emergency rooms have closed in the county in the last two years. The reason given is the high cost of treating uninsured people. The article also states that 70 hospital emergency rooms and trauma centers have closed in California since 1990.The county estimates the cost of providing them with health care is $340 million annually.
There are approximately 127 Sanctuary Cities in this country; this figure keeps rising every year. In Pennsylvania, taxpayers footed a $25.3 million bill in 2007-08 to pay for emergency health care for non-citizens. Tax-funded subsidies of $2 million went to seven area hospitals. Florida Hospitals have to write off $100 million dollars in unpaid medical bills because of illegal aliens. The Florida Hospital Association says taxpayers pick up the tab. Austin - The state of Texas and local hospital districts spent an estimated $677 million to provide health care to illegal immigrants in a year, a new study says. In a recent year in Colorado, the state's emergency Medicaid program paid an estimated $30 million in hospital and physician delivery costs for about 6,000 illegal immigrant mothers - average of $5,000 per baby. Those 6,000 births to illegal aliens represent 40% of the births paid for by Medicaid in Colorado. Those 6,000 babies immediately became U.S. citizens and qualified for full Medicaid services.
The IRS allowed foreign workers - many of them in the U.S. illegally - to improperly claim nearly $7 billion in child tax credits from 2004 to 2007, a government investigator said Thursday.
It's estimated there may be over 300,000 anchor babies born each year in the U.S. Thus, illegal alien mothers now add more to U.S. population each year than immigration from all sources in an average year before 1965. These babies are called anchor babies because they act as an anchor that pulls the illegal alien mother and a host of other relatives into permanent U.S. residency. The instant citizenship of the baby, makes the mother favorable for low income housing and other less known government benefits?
FAIR estimates "there are currently between 287,000 and 363,000 children born to illegal aliens each year. This figure is based on the crude birth rate of the total foreign-born population (33 births per 1000) and the size of the illegal alien population (between 8.7 and 11 million). In 1994, California paid for 74,987 deliveries to illegal alien mothers, at a total cost of $215.2 million (an average of $2,842 per delivery). Illegal alien mothers accounted for 36 percent of all Medi-Cal funded births in California that year."
FAIR research shows that "the Urban Institute estimates that the cost of educating illegal alien children in the nation's seven states with the highest concentration of illegal aliens was $3.1 billion in 1993 (which, with the growth of their population to 1.3 million, would be more like $5 billion in 2000). This estimate does not take into account the additional costs of bilingual education or other special educational needs."
So vote no to supporting parasite businesses that hire illegal cheap labor. The Liberal Assembly in Sacramento has allowed foreign labor to settle here and now the Piper must be paid. US Taxpayers are unknowingly paying billions of dollars in State benefits to underwrite education, health care, housing, Public Safety and other benefits and now has the highest taxes in the nation. If we don't draw the line now the politicians will keep drawing more and more blood from us in the form of raised taxes.
A national plan for dealing with insolvent states is to let the rogue businesses of that state that received the benefits of all the wasteful spending bear the burden. It is unconscionable to spread the burden of asinine policies on those who neither supported it, nor received the benefits of it. It's all about corporate welfare and access to the politicians who supposedly protect the taxpayer.
Today the mechanism which checks employee information from I-9 forms against Social Security and homeland security databases, is used voluntarily by more than 148,000 employers and growing. Whether this is because of the fear of criminal penalties or just being a good loyal American, I don’t know. Groups such as the Society for Human Resource Management, US Chamber of Commerce and immigrant rights organizations have criticized the system for being inefficient, ineffective and unable to detect identity theft. They say that mistakes in government records could cause hundreds of thousands of legal workers to be declared ineligible. But individuals can easily resolve that problem. They can arrive with their ID at their local Social Security Office. Those workers who are not eligible to work in America will not enter this government building because of the consequences. It's as simple as that.
It would be foolish to think that the majority of the US populace are going to sit back and remain silent if the automatons of business - our lawmakers try to force AMNESTY through.
Here is a list of things residents and citizens can do to keep illegal immigration burning in the minds of Americans. We can all do something, especially because there is already discussions of pouncing on us with another amnesty
The most important is to keep “illegal immigration” on the front burner. Like me! VERY INTERESTING DIALOG FOUND ON THE NET.
“Letters to the Editor” about illegal immigration and how it affects the taxpayer and those who are in our nation illegally. When you read a “Letter to the Editor” or read a newspaper article about “illegal immigration", respond to the newspaper article or the letter-writer with facts are easily obtainable on the net.
Become a Whistle-Blower. Scrutinize work sites, day laborer pick up points, vans/trucks transporting workers and record dates, times and places and other relevant information. Pass this information along to law enforcement and (ICE) Immigration and Customs service. Remember! Next time it might be your job onthe line
Keep pressure on city, county, and state legislators. Write letters, send emails, visit their offices, phone them and constantly harass their assistants. Attending public hearings that are sponsored by elected officials is a must. Don't be afraid to speak your mind. Contact talk show radio hosts and invite elected officials to come to the meeting to speak
Follow these instructions by TARGETOC
When reading about organization or groups with a tax exempt status investigate more. Explore those bringing a lawsuit against a city or county municipality who has passed an ordinance against illegal immigration. Check to see if their tax exemption prohibits legislative activities. If so, you can contact the IRS and request that their Tax exempt status be removed (this hurts the group in the pocketbook). The IRS will keep your identity confidential if you so choose. Be prepared to send IRS documentation, such as newspaper clippings of the organization or group, even faith groups and other political activity beyond the actual lawsuit. To verify the organizations/groups that are bringing about the lawsuits, go to their website: or you can contact the organization and inquire whether they are tax exempt?
Hold small group meetings on “Stopping Illegal Immigration”. Make up fliers, contact newspapers and send out newsletters. Contact talk show radio hosts, invite elected officials to come to the meeting to speak and request that they forward information about their official meetings and email constituents who are interested in stopping illegal immigration. Then contact radios stations and ask them to broadcast the meeting place, dates, times, etc.
Invite speakers such as law enforcement, ICE, elected officials, contractors who have been affected by illegal immigration, workers who were fired - and whose employer hired illegal immigrants to replace them - people who live adjacent to illegal immigrant housing, health care workers who can tell you the diseases that illegals are carrying, school officials that can give you costs of educating illegal immigrant children and cost to print instructional materials, cost of hiring bi-lingual teachers/interpreters, etc.
Encourage local law enforcement to adopt the federal program, 287(g). The 287 (g) programs gives law enforcement a database in which to check for legal status of workers. This database not only goes to ICE but it integrates into other federal data bases. Local sheriffs’ deputies can be trained by ICE to function as ICE agents in many ways on the local level.
Make sure that cities, counties, and states use the E-Verify (formerly Basic Pilot) verification system in awarding government contracts.
Call your U. S. Senators and Congressmen and demand the rapid completion of a fence along our southern border and urge legislation that will punish employment of illegals. All 535 congressmen and senators can be reached by calling the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121 or attend all meetings related to “stopping illegal immigration” and invite others to attend. When arrests are made of people of questionable legal status, contact law enforcement to make sure the suspect has been checked for legal status through ICE.
Attend meetings, such as city council and county council, speaking on the issue during public comment opportunities. Form networks of mailing addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc. to coordinate efforts. Stay focused, be patient, and try to remain positive.
Verify that those who work for you such as landscapers, housekeepers, painters, etc. are here legally before you engage them to do the work for you.
Do not support businesses which hire illegal immigrants, such as restaurants. Be sure to ask the business if they hire illegals. Tell the owner/manager that you will not do business with anyone who hires illegal immigrants.
Check for the E-Verify notice as in the restaurant "El Pollo Loco"
Participate in talk radio programs when the subject is on illegal immigration.
Encourage city and county elected officials to pass ordinances on illegal immigration. Support elected officials who are passing legislation/ordinances on illegal immigration.
Do all that you can do to support legislation for funding additional ICE agents by contacting your federal legislators?
American workers are under incessant attack by the open borders insanity. If the US worker wants to save his job from overseas cheap labor, they must get involved with organizations that wish to reduce legal and illegal immigration.
1.5 million newcomers enter America legally through the immigration green card lottery and at least 27 specialized visa applications. In many cases, these cheap rate laborers from India displace computer programmers. Not only do they enter the job market this way, but US workers have to train them before they are given a pink slip. This is a very devious situation that is beneficial to employers, but utterly devious to those who end up jobless.
One organization which has a reputable background is NumbersUSA. NumbersUSA has great resources in the chambers of Washington and state assemblies where information is quickly expedited to them. Investigate their website, their knowledge grows daily on the beginning discussions on giving the 20 to 30 million plus illegal squatters a path to citizenship.
Read about E-Verify being extended 3 years, instead of being tabled by anti-sovereignty Senator Harry Reid. That the Salvation army has disassociated itself from congregational religions and faith groups and does not endorse the National Association of Evangelicals' recent lobbying for amnesty and for an increase in foreign labor importation. That Zogby International poll reveals that 56 percent of Mexicans believe that someone they know would try entering the United States illegally if the country was to offer legal status to illegal aliens. This just a few of the nasty arrangements our so-called politicians have in store for us.
Another non-profit group is JUDICIAL WATCH with their main attention focused on political corruption in all levels of government.
Judicial Watch is a watchdog over our government, legal, and judicial systems. The site posts a summary of the court cases they are pursuing along with related news stories. Currently on their site is the ACORN controversy.
JW Statement on the Arizona Attorney General's Refusal to Take Action against Phoenix Police Chief for Receiving Illegal Pension Benefits and so much more that it nearly asphyxiates the mind. Learn about the supposedly non-existent North American Union. Information about the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) Do you really think that JW, is going to ruin its spotless reputation over NAU as a will-of-the-Wisp? Relating to the illegal immigration: JW Sues DHS for Documents on "Reforms" to 287(g), what is the Obama administration's response to the success of this program? How Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano decided to implement "reforms" to weaken it as part of her comprehensive "review" of all border security policies. Judicial Watch, of course, wants to know everything about how and why this incomprehensible decision was made?
In conclusion, be very aware of a blanket amnesty if enacted. Not only will millions more get past the border fence, but the costs cannot even be calculated with family reunification - known as "chain migration". A massive Armada of the old, young, mentally sick could be sponsored. The legalized sponsor, in the majority of actions, never fulfills his financial commitment to his charges and they end up as a taxpayer expense.
The CAPSWEB site is all about our rush towards overpopulation. The US Census Bureau has not denied that America's population could climb to projections of a 50-percent increase in the domestic population by the year 2050. Up from 255 million to 383 million. The next 100 million will suffocate our ability to maintain water, energy, food, communication, infrastructure and a balanced environment. It will put out of reach any chance for a stable and sustainable population within the USA. It will also create horrific water shortages and exacerbate the energy and climate destabilization crises. My suggestion is GOOGLE keywords - not separated by comma’s, such as "illegal immigration costs California" and learn the frightening truth for yourself. Not the lies and propaganda that seem to permeate from the desks of Liberal editors.
belugajedi on Oct 27, 2009 at 16:18:24 said:
We are a nation of laws. Lets enforce them. Write your congressmen and senators and tell them that comprehensive reform is not needed. Enforcement of the laws that currently exist must occur. www.house.gov and www.senate.gov If they pass this thing - the democratic party should be put away permanently for selling out the country in support of political correctness and public interest groups.
debug on Oct 27, 2009 at 14:08:07 said:
There is nothing wrong with the e-verify system, that system is 99 percent correct everytime. The only time you will not want to use it if you have false documents and you are an illegal alien.
debug on Oct 27, 2009 at 14:05:45 said:
How about the millions of unemployed Americans? When will their elected democrats represent them instead of greedy corporations.
The President is right, the United States needs to create 150,000 jobs each month to keep pace with out own skyrocketing population. According to the President we are only creating 50,000 jobs each month. This means that we are creating 100,000 too few jobs each month.
Things that Obama can do to give Americans jobs:
a. Cancel all temporary working visas like H1-b and L1. There is no labor shortage and we don\'t need cheap foreign labor to take and displace Americans out of their jobs.
b. Suspend all Green Card Based Employment Visas like EB1, EB2 and EB3. Companies should hire locally and not go overseas to hire somebody and pay them lower wages.
All the visas above are used by greedy companies to bypass the American Workforce. The American workforce are made of American Citizens and Green Card Holders (Permanent Residents). It\'s time America takes care of it\'s own people.
Bobby on Oct 27, 2009 at 14:04:29 said:
Gutierrez is a fifth columnist who doesn't care how Americans social services (that we paid into) are drained by illegal foreign nationals. He is a traitor as are most Democrats and Republican Rino's. All Americans are good for to these a--holes are to be used and abused to pay taxes. Screw all of them.
Human Being on Oct 27, 2009 at 14:03:33 said:
Wes McKay said:
"ILLEGALS KILLED MORE THAN 68,000 AMERICANS SINSE 9/11 THAT 24 A DAY\"
U.S. Rep. Steve King (R-IA) in claimed in May 2006, in at least two speeches and a press release that undocumented immigrants murder 12 Americans each day and kill 13 each day as a result of drunken driving accidents, for a total of 25 deaths per day.
www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html
Rep. Steve King (R-IA) misleadingly "extrapolated" figures from an April 2005 Government Accountability Office (GAO) study to formulate the questionable statistic regarding the number of deaths caused by undocumented immigrants, the GAO report itself makes no such claim.
www.gao.gov/new.items/d05337r.pdf
blogs.chron.com/bluebayou/2006/11/fanning_the_immigration_flames.html
colorado.mediamatters.org/items/200609270005
www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=415
Bobby on Oct 27, 2009 at 14:00:57 said:
The democratic party is the party that puts illegal foreign nationals, ahead of American citizens in their own nation. They sicken me.Connie is a mental case.
Restore Fairness on Oct 27, 2009 at 13:36:19 said:
This is an important step forward in restoring fairness to our broken immigration system. We need workable solutions that unite us together - and reform that respects due process and fairness allows us to celebrate the values that we hold dear - fairness, opportunity and due process. When we deny due process to some people, ultimately it will affect all of us. To hear more stories about why we need reform and to take action go to www.restorefairness.org.
RE:David Nichols on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:42:28 said:
"David Nichols on Oct 27, 2009 at 06:56:02 said"
Yes, as people gripe about these things, unimaginable, worst things will come, they would not even realize what is happening.
Cause them to fear, feel insecure, cause distrust among one another, they will give up their rights, lay down their freedom to the law enforcement, vote for more controlling laws and slowly, but steadily, democracy will slide into ochlocracy.
---Give me some of your rights and freedom, give me more access to your privacy...this can help me 'protect' you...'protect' you from 'them'....(..but little do you know that your fear of 'them' and your insecurity only helps me gain more control of 'you')
Thank you...now both you and they are 'mine'...
SteveG on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:04:32 said:
And let's not forget that those pushing "comprehensive immigration reform" a/k/a mass amnesty, are on the fringe of mainstream public opinion. A recent CNN poll shows that 73% of Americans want a decrease in the number of illegal immigrants in our country.
Wes McKay on Oct 27, 2009 at 10:44:23 said:
Who are these 100 demo's who signed the letter. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW.
When you side with an INVADER and AID and ABET by keeping our borders open and protecting these CRIMINALS they are themselves CRIMINALS.
THEY NEED TO BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE IN 2010
AND DEPORTED TO MEXICO ALONG WITH THE OTHER CRIMINALS. END OF PROBLEM.
ILLEGALS KILLED MORE THAN 68,000 AMERICANS SINSE 9/11 THAT 24 A DAY.
WE ARE LOSING BETWEEN 1 and 2 MILITARY PERSONAL IN IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN.
WHO ARE THE BIGGER PROBLEM ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Bailey Armstrong on Oct 27, 2009 at 10:21:04 said:
Illegal aliens do not belong in our country demanding rights, sucking our social services and public schools dry and taking jobs from Americans. They act like we owe them something for breaking the law and coming into our country illegally. If any of these pro-amnesty
people had ever been victimized by an illegal alien they might be singing a different tune. It is not up to Obama or Congress or special interest groups to make this decision. What happen to By the people for the people?
June on Oct 27, 2009 at 09:53:09 said:
Being poor has never been an excuse for crime. When Americans commit crimes, they go to jail. When illegals commit crime, they are rewarded. Fair? Not by a long shot.
Luis Gutierrez and his ilk are traitors to this country. They need to be deported along with the rest of the criminals. Until we vote in someone who has the welfare of THIS country at heart, we will continue to sink into the corruption illegals bring with them. They are NOT your immigrants of past years.
victor trent on Oct 27, 2009 at 09:50:48 said:
No amnesty! I read numbersusa.com, americanpatrol.com, and steinreport.com everyday to get the truth on illegal immigration.
Ali Alexander on Oct 27, 2009 at 09:40:46 said:
By the way, how about a published list of these Democrats? Or how they too cowardly to admit to it?
Ali Alexander on Oct 27, 2009 at 09:38:03 said:
Stuckintwoworlds, the people you talk about had their situation created by the lawbreaking of the people who brought them here. Now, why should illegal aliens be able to remain here to legalize, but would be legal immigrants have to wait in their home countries, apart from their relatives? As for the 10-year wait, too bad. The 1986 amnesty made that wait longer for many because legalized illegal aliens became eligible to sponsor THEIR relatives. No, if illegal aliens want legal status here, they'd better plan on returning to their home countries and getting in line. If the parents could come here illegally and without knowing English, then the kids can certainly return to their homelands legally and very likely knowing the language, too.
Ali Alexander on Oct 27, 2009 at 09:33:31 said:
Just what is an "immigrant voter"? To vote, one needs to be a CITIZEN of the U.S. Illegal aliens are not only not citizens, they're not even legal residents of the U.S.
Furthermore, it doesn't matter WHAT bill comes before Congress, if this Administration does not PROVE it is and will enforce the law by cracking down on employers and removing illegal aliens, then that bill will fail as well. As a lifelong Democrat, I'm one of many who willl make sure it does, just as we did last time.
Charlie on Oct 27, 2009 at 09:29:17 said:
Let's not forget that many of the jobs that illegals take, displace many recently released prisoners who are unable to get a decent job and end up falling back into a life of crime... That is another hidden cost of illegal alien employment.
Detect, detain and deport in the most stringent and expeditious manner possible.
SteveG on Oct 27, 2009 at 09:26:18 said:
We have heard this talk of "tighter border security" tied with amnesty back in 1986. After the amnesty was granted, the promised enforcement disappeared. American citizens will NOT be fooled again by "border security" talking points. There is no good reason to tie border security and interior enforcement with "comprehensive" amnesty -- especially now with an effective unemployment rate of 17%. NO FORM OF ANY AMNESTY!!
Norski on Oct 27, 2009 at 08:20:57 said:
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Unemployment Report released on October 2, 2009:
Black or African American Citizens – Unemployment Rate = 15.4% (2.7 million people looking for work)
Hispanic or Latino Citizens – Unemployment Rate = 12.7% (2.8 million people looking for work)
White American Citizens – Unemployment Rate = 9.0% (11.3 million people looking for work)
Meanwhile, 7.5 million Illegal Immigrants are working. Telling only one side of the story and ignoring the other amounts to propaganda. Illegal Immigration is a loose-loose scenario. Either the Illegal Immigrant works and the American Citizen suffers unemployment or the Illegal Immigrant suffers deportation and the American Citizen works. And in today’s America those with an ethnic heritage still seem to bare a higher burden when unemployment goes up. Forgetting the American Worker and glorifying the working Illegal Immigrant sweeps this under the carpet. So who speaks for the forgotten Citizen men and women who suffer while Illegal Immigrants work?
Dave on Oct 27, 2009 at 08:16:28 said:
Yet another foreigner/loberal calls Americans "racist" for wanting our laws enforced. We won't fall for it or the tricks Gutierrez is once again trying to do. American has survived this storm in the past and will again.
Beast on Oct 27, 2009 at 08:07:39 said:
Hard working immigrants? Don't you mean border jumping thieves? What message do you send if you give these people amnesty? That all you have to do it just get here and you are already legalized. I dont think so. Deport them all, get rid of them they are a drain on our economy.
StuckinTwoWorlds on Oct 27, 2009 at 07:22:42 said:
John, there are legitimate reasons for people not going back....for example some came here 15yrs ago and as teenagers and everyone who they love and know lives here.
It's like asking you to go back to where your ancestors came from and apply to come back in...while you don't know anyone there and the backlog to coming back in is 10 yrs... So that means you will be living the next 10 yrs away from your loved ones and not partake in the births and deaths of any because now you are barred from returning to the country until your number comes up after 10 yrs..now why this long? You ask? Well that exactly Is one of the problems. Regards.
David Nichols on Oct 27, 2009 at 06:56:02 said:
FACT:
In January 2010 we can ALL Celebrate the two year Aniversary of the start of the E-verify Law, the start of the Hitler like I.C.E. Program, the start of the worst Re-cession in U.S. History, followed by the Global Re-cession, followed by a Re-surgence in Racism and Hate in America worse than that of the 1960's!
God shed his Grace on us, and Crowned or GOOD with Brotherhood from Sea to shining Sea!
To: Liberty, Freedom, & Prosperity!
Connie on Oct 27, 2009 at 06:55:30 said:
Obama should take the lead on immigration! No more waiting and excuses. Millions of hard-working immigrants deserve a chance at the American dream! Don't let racist monsters derail the issue a third time.
john on Oct 27, 2009 at 05:24:04 said:
How about going home and asking to come in? I am sick to death of these illegals marching in our streets, chanting in Spanish, demanding rights and waving a foreign flag. We do not need aonther amnesty. We need our laws enforced.
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